Working on a new website..

[iha]

It's for a gamming clan I'm in

http://koa.planetubh.com/

only the about us page is up right now.. and the forums.

Started on it yesterday.

Comments/Suggestions?

[jazz]

the left column is too wide for my taste. but good stuff. :up:

[iha]

the left column is too wide for my taste. but good stuff. :up:

I wasn't really through with the left column, but i got a photoshop error, so I had to just print screen and use what I had at the time. :|

Thanks!

[Keith Moon]

- Did you design everything (beside the ad images) on that site?

[iha]

- Did you design everything (beside the ad images) on that site?
Yes

[The Judas Cow]

Nice

[iha]

Nice
thank you

[iha]

i made the forum colors match the site now :smile:

[Tzarina]

I suck so BAD... I can't figure out this html :shit: So, my web site is so basic, it is sad and pathetic... :crying:

[Keith Moon]

I suck so BAD... I can't figure out this html :shit: So, my web site is so basic, it is sad and pathetic... :crying:


- I'd be willing to give you a hand on it Tzarina. :smile:

[iha]

I'll help you too if you need it. :pepper:

I wouldn't mine designing you a page if you wanted.
Here are some more ones I've made.

http://www.echoschool.com - did for someone who runs a private/home school type thing
http://koa.planetubh.com/e/ - did for a physics project.. didnt have time to code it well
http://koa.planetubh.com/ryk/ - my friend's car club site
http://www.tct.tusc.k12.al.us/~Slatham/ci.php [very simple site .. home is messed up b/c they fucked something up since i left that school]

hm, i think that's all i have on the web right now.

[Tzarina]

- I'd be willing to give you a hand on it Tzarina. :smile:
:nod:
I'll help you too if you need it. :pepper:

I wouldn't mine designing you a page if you wanted.
Here are some more ones I've made.

http://www.echoschool.com - did for someone who runs a private/home school type thing
http://koa.planetubh.com/e/ - did for a physics project.. didnt have time to code it well
http://koa.planetubh.com/ryk/ - my friend's car club site
http://www.tct.tusc.k12.al.us/~Slatham/ci.php [very simple site .. home is messed up b/c they fucked something up since i left that school]

hm, i think that's all i have on the web right now.
I :inlove: you guys, cause yea, I need help :lmao:

[iha]

PM me w/ any help you need. Or if you want me to just do a whole layout then PM me if you have any general of idea of what you want it to look like (i.e. colors, other websites you like, pictures you may have of your pets or something, etc) and the sections you want.. that would be helpful. If you would rather do it yourself and just ask questions when you are stuck I 100% completeley understand (b/c that's how I learned HTML back in 6th grade) and will help you as much as I can.

HTML is pretty simple, all you have to do is know how to use tables well, then images, links, etc are even more simple.

Now when I design layouts I do it all in photoshop first, then slice it w/ image ready.. then code it myself, b/c the code they generate is never good.

If you have questions a bout PHP, Java Script, Flash, NET, DHTML, CSS, etc.. I wont be able to help you much, but I have a friend who could answer almost anything you throw at him.

[Tzarina]

Sweet, thank you :up:

[Mufumonk]

Just for some ideas, here's my guild's website:

[Tzarina]

Just for some ideas, here's my guild's website:

Shadow Syndicate (http://www.shadowsyndicate.net)
Nice, thank you :nod:

[DeadOhioSky]

iha thats some pretty good work there. i see your using alot of php, tahts what i need to use, but i still havent learned it. :rolleyes2

check out the page im working on now, its temporarily hosted on my schools ftp:

http://iris.nyit.edu/~tcappell/tpd/

obviosuly its still very work in progress, and alot of the links dont work. You think u could help me set up maybe a simple script for submitting news?

[iha]

Thanks... I always use the same PHP script for news, and I didn't write it myself. I wish I could :(. Here is the script I use anyway http://newsphp.sourceforge.net/. You have to have a MySQL database in order to install it, which is what most any php news script would require. I like this script because it is 100% customizable. You can edit the template as much as you want to make the posts look exactly how you like them.

That site you're working on is looking good. I like the grunge look.

The only PHP code I use a lot myself is the include tag. That is very simple and I just use it for organizing my code so that it is easy to edit stuff. I always have a top.php that has all the code before the content, and then a bottom.php that has all the code needed for after the content. Then I write the content inbetween the 2 inlcude tags for every page. if I ever want to change something to the layout I just edit the top or bottom.php and all the pages are fixed.

So one page looks like this:

<?php include("top.php"); ?>

Content here

<?php include("bottom.php"); ?>

[DeadOhioSky]

thanx dude, but you either forgot the link, or i've gone blind. send help

[Hailo]

Nice


hey judas, is that you in your av?

Cause you look like a demented jesus.


I have to say it loooks rather nice. :monty:

[Tzarina]

Thanks... I always use the same PHP script for news, and I didn't write it myself. I wish I could :(. Here is the script I use anyway http://newsphp.sourceforge.net/. You have to have a MySQL database in order to install it, which is what most any php news script would require. I like this script because it is 100% customizable. You can edit the template as much as you want to make the posts look exactly how you like them.

That site you're working on is looking good. I like the grunge look.

The only PHP code I use a lot myself is the include tag. That is very simple and I just use it for organizing my code so that it is easy to edit stuff. I always have a top.php that has all the code before the content, and then a bottom.php that has all the code needed for after the content. Then I write the content inbetween the 2 inlcude tags for every page. if I ever want to change something to the layout I just edit the top or bottom.php and all the pages are fixed.

So one page looks like this:

<?php include("top.php"); ?>

Content here

<?php include("bottom.php"); ?>
Oh god, I have virtually NO idea what anything you are saying even is... :blush:

[iha]

thanx dude, but you either forgot the link, or i've gone blind. send help
lol i actually edited that post to add URL codes, but I guess I accidently deleted it. Here it is http://newsphp.sourceforge.net/

[iha]

Oh god, I have virtually NO idea what anything you are saying even is... :blush:
That was for DeadOhioSky :)

But basicly I said I use a PHP news script that requires a MySQL database. And when I code a website I like having a top.php (same as a .html file, but it's .php) and a bottomo.php that contains the code needed to produce the layout. That way on each subpage I will just have to include top.php before the content and bottom.php after the content so that it's very neat and organized.

Another advantage is if I wanted to change something on the layout, then I wouldn't have to edit every subpage, just the top.php which would take care of all the subpages since they all include that code.

All the include tag does is take the code from a different document and put it where you put the include tag. :up:

[DeadOhioSky]

could i use that on my page? I read it over real qucik so sry if i missed something, but since my page relies mainly on the side menu, would that be a problem? thanx for all your help bro

[iha]

could i use that on my page? I read it over real qucik so sry if i missed something, but since my page relies mainly on the side menu, would that be a problem? thanx for all your help bro
yes you could. here ill show you... .. or try to

[DeadOhioSky]

actaully i just re-read it and i think i under stand. any code between the two tags literally gets shoved in, so i could even have it in the middle of a table. yes?

[iha]

yes. well i already went through the trouble of downloading a cracked version of CuteFTP on this comp. so I might as well try and do it :)

[iha]

ok it worked right first try :)

http://koa.planetubh.com/test/index.php

that's an example of how i would do your site.

if you go to view page source it shows all the messy stuff, but in actuality the index.php file just has this in it


<?php include("top.php"); ?>
Content goes here
<?php include("bottom.php"); ?>

That way if you wanted to add any subpages you would just have to copy that simple layout. I just put "Content goes here" instead of the tables you have, b/c really I would have this there:
<?php include("news/news.php"); ?>
to include the PHP news, which would be much easier for updating!

If you want to see what I actually put in each file (bottom.php, top.php, and index.php) here are links to them in txt files.
http://koa.planetubh.com/test/index.txt
http://koa.planetubh.com/test/bottom.txt
http://koa.planetubh.com/test/top.txt

[DeadOhioSky]

beauty. thanx man, my site is def gonna be muuch cooler, and much easier now.

btw im gonna sign up for hosting next weekend, anything u reccommend? Im looking at ix web hosting as my number 1 right now. http://www.ixwebhosting.com/index.php/home.dspPage/page/info.dspUnixHosting

that news script only need one sql database right? cause those things can be pricey :sniper:

[iha]

beauty. thanx man, my site is def gonna be muuch cooler, and much easier now.

btw im gonna sign up for hosting next weekend, anything u reccommend? Im looking at ix web hosting as my number 1 right now. http://www.ixwebhosting.com/index.php/home.dspPage/page/info.dspUnixHosting

that news script only need one sql database right? cause those things can be pricey :sniper:
No Problem

Correct about needing 1 database. Make sure the hosting plan you get has c-panel. makes setting things up much easier :) I get free hosting, so i'm not sure what the best is. I've heard 1and1.com is good.

I know http://www.dreamhost.com/ was having a special where if you enter the coupon code 777 you can get your first year of hosting for $10.00. Not sure if it's still up.

[... Scott]

It's for a gamming clan I'm in

http://koa.planetubh.com/

only the about us page is up right now.. and the forums.

Started on it yesterday.

Comments/Suggestions?

The page is really good and the fading rollovers are very cool indeed !

[DeadOhioSky]

just signed up at dreamhost, iha you saved me $85 ! i love u :pepper:

[iha]

just signed up at dreamhost, iha you saved me $85 ! i love u :pepper:
no problem, glad I could help :shades: :pink: :pepper: :blue: :moped:

[iha]

The page is really good and the fading rollovers are very cool indeed !
Thanks ... Scott :biggrin:

[DeadOhioSky]

:hand: http://thepezdispenser.com

[iha]

:hand: http://thepezdispenser.com

NICE! Are you using the include tag for your layout?

[DeadOhioSky]

definately man, php is my new best friend!

[iha]

definately man, php is my new best friend!
yeah that little thing helps :up:

[Keith Moon]

- iha, I was wondering if you were familiar with tabbed browsing using CSS and the <ul> (unordered list) tags...if so, could you take a look at this pages code http://www.geocities.com/is139marthaedwards/Gregory/menu3.htm and tell me how to make the navigation menu NOT get resized when the window is being restored to a smaller window? In other words, I don't want the navigation buttons to move or become distorted when someone resizes their window...


- Thanks. :smile:

[dionysusolympus]

- iha, I was wondering if you were familiar with tabbed browsing using CSS and the <ul> (unordered list) tags...if so, could you take a look at this pages code http://www.geocities.com/is139marthaedwards/Gregory/menu3.htm and tell me how to make the navigation menu NOT get resized when the window is being restored to a smaller window? In other words, I don't want the navigation buttons to move or become distorted when someone resizes their window...


- Thanks. :smile:

Use the Force, Luke... :insecure:

[Keith Moon]

Use the Force, Luke... :insecure:


- :wookie: I figured it out, kind of...nevermind.

[dionysusolympus]

- :wookie: I figured it out, kind of...nevermind.

:darth:

[Tzarina]

*sigh* I am never going to get this :shit:... :shame:
I read this thread and it's like I am reading Portuguese... :frown:

[iha]

- iha, I was wondering if you were familiar with tabbed browsing using CSS and the <ul> (unordered list) tags...if so, could you take a look at this pages code http://www.geocities.com/is139marthaedwards/Gregory/menu3.htm and tell me how to make the navigation menu NOT get resized when the window is being restored to a smaller window? In other words, I don't want the navigation buttons to move or become distorted when someone resizes their window...


- Thanks. :smile:
not right off hand. but i'll ask someone i know who knows everything there is to know about CSS :)

if you figured it out.. good job! :wookie:

[iha]

*sigh* I am never going to get this :shit:... :shame:
I read this thread and it's like I am reading Portuguese... :frown:
this read wasn't meant for you! it will confuse you. just get basic HTML down first :nana:

[DeadOhioSky]

Tzarina just do stuff in frontpage, then look at the code it generates. eventually, u should really get a good grasp of it

[iha]

DeadOhiaSky. I was messing around w/ ur css.. and all you have to do to get it to do what you want to do is add a static width to the nav container lol

#navcontainer ul
{
width: 652px;
}

[Keith Moon]

DeadOhiaSky. I was messing around w/ ur css.. and all you have to do to get it to do what you want to do is add a static width to the nav container lol

#navcontainer ul
{
width: 652px;
}



- Don't you mean Keith? :who: :biggrin: I think tried changing the display:block; & position:absolute; code, but it wasn't making the menu static in Firefox... :sad:

- But I'll definitely try your method! Thanks iha!

[iha]

- Don't you mean Keith? :who: :biggrin: I think tried changing the display:block; & position:absolute; code, but it wasn't making the menu static in Firefox... :sad:

- But I'll definitely try your method! Thanks iha!
oh yeah.. you. :tongue2:

my method works in firefox, and it's simple!

just add
width: 652px;
to the navcontainer ul you already have.

eeek.. nevermind. it doesn't work in IE! SHIT. It has something to do w/ the width number. For IE.. 652px is too large so it goes to the next row.. if you did it shorter than it'd work, but then it wouldnt look right on firefox. :cry:

660px works well for IE :shrug:

If you can't figure out a way that works perfectly I'd use the widh: 660px; because that works perfectly for IE, and it doesn't look too bad on firefox.

[Keith Moon]

oh yeah.. you. :tongue2:

my method works in firefox, and it's simple!

just add
width: 652px;
to the navcontainer ul you already have.

eeek.. nevermind. it doesn't work in IE! SHIT. It has something to do w/ the width number. For IE.. 652px is too large so it goes to the next row.. if you did it shorter than it'd work, but then it wouldnt look right on firefox. :cry:

660px works well for IE :shrug:

If you can't figure out a way that works perfectly I'd use the widh: 660px; because that works perfectly for IE, and it doesn't look too bad on firefox.



- Thanks again, iha! I'll keep you posted if I run into any other problems, but as long as the navigation can stay put, then I'm a happy camper. :nana:

[Keith Moon]

- Iha, could you take a look at this set of tabs source code and tell me why they won't stay static...thanks a bunch again :laugh:

- :hand: link (http://www.geocities.com/is139marthaedwards/Gregory/csstabs.htm)














- * Do think by just adding one <div> around the whole navigation and setting a static margin would work?

[iha]

if you add
width: 800px; [replace 800px w/ whatever you want]
to the ul#tabnav then it does it on firefox. but it's no good b/c in IE it adds a space in between the tabs and the line.

Not really sure what causes that space :(

[iha]

Keith you should sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/IE7STAN/petition.html

Microsoft has said that they aren't going to completely support W3C's standards on CSS and CSS2 in their new browser (IE7). Microsoft doing this type of stuff is what makes it so hard to code CSS to work properly in both firefox and IE.

I think M$ is doing this because they want things defined in their terms. Even when it is something they didn't invent. They want to make it so people have to code for their browser (which will in return hurt other browsers like firefox).

That's the only reason I could see for them doing this.

[Keith Moon]

Keith you should sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/IE7STAN/petition.html

Microsoft has said that they aren't going to completely support W3C's standards on CSS and CSS2 in their new browser (IE7). Microsoft doing this type of stuff is what makes it so hard to code CSS to work properly in both firefox and IE.

I think M$ is doing this because they want things defined in their terms. Even when it is something they didn't invent. They want to make it so people have to code for their browser (which will in return hurt other browsers like firefox).

That's the only reason I could see for them doing this.


- Dammit!!! Having to work with 5+ other browsers and now this?! ...weak :plain: . I'll definitely sign and thanks for bringing that to my attention.







- *edit: signed. :up:

[iha]

Thanks :smile:

[Keith Moon]

- At least it's just a rumor. :kenny:

[DeadOhioSky]

getting my page to look good in both ie and firefox is a major pain in my ass

[jazz]

getting my page to look good in both ie and firefox is a major pain in my ass
tell me about it. i must've gone through three or four different looks before i settled on the current one. none of the others worked consistenly on both browsers. :shame:

[Keith Moon]

getting my page to look good in both ie and firefox is a major pain in my ass



- It's the suck-ness... :dual:

[Tzarina]

Tzarina just do stuff in frontpage, then look at the code it generates. eventually, u should really get a good grasp of it

K, I don't have Front Page, I don't think, but I know my site is compatible, so I was already thinking of trying it out...this html is not catching with me...

K... will someone please explain subdomains to me...

and if anyone knows what it means for me to lock or unlock my domain...
:blush:

[iha]

subdomains are exactly what they sound like they are.

like a subdomain for www.google.com is http://gmail.google.com

i'm not exactly sure the difference between locked or unlocked domains... except maybe if it is unlocked then someone could buy the domain somehow. But I really have no idea.

[jazz]

K, I don't have Front Page, I don't think, but I know my site is compatible, so I was already thinking of trying it out...this html is not catching with me...

K... will someone please explain subdomains to me...

and if anyone knows what it means for me to lock or unlock my domain...
:blush:

http://www.registersite.com/support/guides/locking.nihtml (http://www.registersite.com/support/guides/locking.nihtml)

Explanation of domain locking:

Some domain registration companies send out misleading renewal notices via email and mail ( Many people have been tricked into transferring their domain name when they thought it was a renewal notice. ) . Because the admin contact is required to be public information, it is a simple matter for them to find this information. Some of these companies make unauthorized transfers of your domain (hijacking), and locking protects you against any unauthorized activity.

Domain locking prevents your domain name from being hijacked or accidently transferred. If a transfer to another registrar or hosting company is requested for a locked domain name the transfer request will automatically fail. If you wish to transfer a locked domain name you simply have to login to your control panel and unlock the domain name.

Please note that your domain name must be unlocked to update the nameservers. You may immediately lock the domain once you have made the necessary nameserver changes.

Domain locking is offered with both our basic and premium plans. There is no charge to lock or unlock domains with RegisterSite.com.

[Tzarina]

subdomains are exactly what they sound like they are.

like a subdomain for www.google.com is http://gmail.google.com
Ok, how is a subdomain different from just another page or area on the web site?


Please note that your domain name must be unlocked to update the nameservers. You may immediately lock the domain once you have made the necessary nameserver changes.

Domain locking is offered with both our basic and premium plans. There is no charge to lock or unlock domains with RegisterSite.com.
Wow, Thank you... :nod: But what is this nameserver updating?

Ugh, I just don't know :shit:

[Keith Moon]

- ^ But you know animals... :up:

[iha]

Ok, how is a subdomain different from just another page or area on the web site?

because you can have completely different FTP access for a subdomain.. i think. that way say someone wanted you to host their site (or you wanted to host another site for yourself)... you could host it at http://whatever.domanname.com.

Like my website is actually a subdomain for www.planetubh.com b/c it's http://koa.planetubh.com.

I'm getting a real domain name soon though. Really I already have 3, but dont use any of them.

[Tzarina]

Tzarina just do stuff in frontpage, then look at the code it generates. eventually, u should really get a good grasp of it
Do you know the difference between this and Publisher 2003? If I can use front page to do my site, can I use publisher instead?
:sheep:

[DeadOhioSky]

idk if publisher can do webdesign, i never bothered installign it w/ office.

iha, i too have several domain names i registered but never bothered doing anything with

[iha]

Do you know the difference between this and Publisher 2003? If I can use front page to do my site, can I use publisher instead?
:sheep:
Publisher can be used to make websites I think.. but the only thing I've used it for is making brochures, and it's great for that.

I really like dreamweaver. My mom uses that too, and if she learned how to use it.. it shouldn't be to hard for you.

If you want me to mail you a CD w/ it on there I will (b/c I know you have 56k and can't DL it.)

[Tzarina]

The Publisher that came with the Office 2003... the website area is quite extensive, it seems like if the sites use the same codes then it should work, but I dunno... Is this assumption correct? :brick:
I'm sorry I am so dense about this stuff you guys... :blush:

[iha]

yeah i'm sure it will work.. but that's more like designing a website in MS word.. you don't get any knowledge of what the code should be like. in the future it would be much easier for you if you knew HTML... but for a start it should be fine. Save your page as .html and be sure to upload all the images that go along with it whenever you upload it. :shades2:

[Tzarina]

:laugh:

I am never gonna figure this out...:crying: I'll pay someone... :monty:

[iha]

If you already have the information and sections you want on there it shouldn't take to long. :smile:

I know I already told you this, sorry. :shh:

[DeadOhioSky]

what a generous soul

[iha]

what a generous soul
:cool: :shrug2:

[DeadOhioSky]

hey i need help, im working with divisions for the first time, and i need to kno how to get the height of the <div> to scale with the content... instead of just over lapping and going out of the div and onto the rest of the page.
my experiment can be found here-> http://www.thepezdispenser.com/simple/

[iha]

eek, works in IE but not in firefox.

I don't understand why you have stylesheet code in the index page, and also link the page to a stylesheet.css. Also everyhwere you have a div tag w/ a class="something", that something is supposed to be defined with attributes in your stylesheet. Otherwise it is useless. This website might help you better understand: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/selectors_class.htm

i'm too tired to search through all that code tonight to try and figure out how to fix it. there's a good chance i wouldn't know how anyway.

you may not want to do it, but an easy way to achieve the same effect you're wanting is to create an image that is 1 px in heigth and aboue 1600px (to accommodate for any resolution) in width, and making the center of it white (the same width that you have your table on the site in the middle) and the rest of it the same grey as you have as the background.

then add this in your stylesheet:
body {
background: url('imagenamehere.jpg') repeat-y top center;
}
that will make that one image repeat the whole height of the page, and align it in the center.

[DeadOhioSky]

ok i link to one style sheet that i used for my old page that has fonts and colors and stuff like that, and i have different css in the page b/c im still messing around with it.

the something is defined in the index page, not the .css(yet)

i get what your saying about the body background, i could do that but idk its pretty sloppy. idk i have a little bit of pondering to do, thanx

[iha]

I made another little page that people the play the game can download a patch from... it's simple but that's how I wanted it. :smile:
http://koa.planetubh.com/lasthope.php

[jazz]

nice work, my friend. :up:

[iha]

Thanks, my :jazz:.

[DeadOhioSky]

just threw up my redesign, tell me what you all think
http://thepezdispenser.com/

[iha]

I like it Dead. My only suggestion would be to not have so much space between the tables (vertically). In fact, I think I would take it all out. :shrug:

[DeadOhioSky]

hrmmmm... maybe. im still tweaking it, i might give that a shot later tonight see how it looks

[iha]

Alright, I just think it looks a little odd how the stuff is randomly spaced.. especially since the spaces are so large. :shrug2:

[Person]

Hey iha, I just clicked the link of your first post here, and had a look at the roster... are there only 2 clan mamber atm??

Anyway, I'd like to recommend an awesome online-play game, called Soldat.

www.soldat.prv.pl

It's simple and fun. I just feel like advertising it for some reason.

[iha]

Hey iha, I just clicked the link of your first post here, and had a look at the roster... are there only 2 clan mamber atm??
No, but really there are only about 6 or so that are still around. We don't play anymore.. the game is 6 years old. :P

I was working on a roster, but realized there's no use since we aren't active anymore.

[Person]

Fair enough. Starcraft is still going strong I realised recently.

Do check out Soldat :p

[DeadOhioSky]

Alright, I just think it looks a little odd how the stuff is randomly spaced.. especially since the spaces are so large. :shrug2:


its not really randomly spaced dude, the spacing is pretty uniform. atleast it should be (it is on my computer). the reason im hessitant to remove the spacing is that the google ads are smaller the the menus so it might look weird.

[DeadOhioSky]

unless the spacing your refering to is the failure of the ads to load in the first place, which is unavoidable

[iha]

could you not make them the same size?

also, why do you have the google adds mixed in with the navigation, instead of just putting them all below it? :hmm:

one minor change I think you should make is to add 2 spaces after the links in the top right, so they aren't right against the border.

after
contact</a>
add
&nbsp;&nbsp;

[DeadOhioSky]

they are the same size, but when the ads fail to load it leaves a blank space. i mixed the ads with the links in a cunning attempt to get more clicks. im gonna do more work on it once my comp is working again. right now my pocketpc is my main box :-/

[iha]

Oh, :hmm:

[DeadOhioSky]

ok well im back up finally. im on an athlon 64 3500+ now, if your interested. its pretty damn fast. im gonna take the night off from the webpage tho, ill screw around 2marrow night

[iha]

i made a new website for a different gaming clan (not mine, i did it for someone)

http://koa.planetubh.com/BE/

there are some things i wanted to do, but decided not to do b/c it would take to long and I was making it for free :lol:

[jazz]

very nice work, iha. is this for a personal friend? :shake:

[iha]

thank you jazz :five:

and no, not a personal friend. i just know him through a game.

he gave me a vent server and admin to his game servers, so I didn't mind that much. :)

[jazz]

oh, well, there you go. not a bad deal.

[scarygarrey]

Sweet site man (the one you're working on). I like the left column. Kudos on the design. The links (buttons) are nicley done. I like how your tables are done as well. Should be a great lookin' site.

[iha]

made new layout

http://www.echoschool.com/bbb/

[jazz]

i like it. very clean cut and professional-looking. is it their responsibility to add the content or do they want you to do ALL the pages?

[iha]

thank you

and someone else is doing the content

[Joga]

i like it. very clean cut and professional-looking.

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[iha]

thank you

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