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Pudie
October 14th, 2005, 03:14 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2005/10/13/BL2005101300885.html

A Polling Free-Fall Among Blacks

By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Thursday, October 13, 2005; 3:09 PM

In what may turn out to be one of the biggest free-falls in the history of presidential polling, President Bush's job-approval rating among African Americans has dropped to 2 percent, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

The drop among blacks drove Bush's overall job approval ratings to an all-time low of 39 percent in this poll. By comparison, 45 percent of whites and 36 percent of Hispanics approve of the job Bush is doing.

A few months after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found Bush's approval rating among blacks at 51 percent. As recently as six months ago, it was at 19 percent.

But Bush's bungled response to Hurricane Katrina -- seen by many blacks as evidence that he didn't care about them (see my September 13 column ) -- may have brought support for the president in the African American community down to nearly negligible levels.

Tim Russert called attention to this startling statistic on the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams yesterday: "Brian, listen to this," he said. "Only 2 percent -- 2 percent! -- of African-Americans approve of George Bush's handling of the presidency -- the lowest we have ever seen in that particular measure."

So this morning, I called Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff, to get a better sense of the significance of the results.

"African Americans were not supporters, but I don't think that they outright detested him -- until now," Hart said. "The actions in and around Katrina persuaded African Americans that this was a president who was totally insensitive to their concerns and their needs."

Hart said he has never seen such a dramatic drop in presidential approval ratings, within any subgroup.

This latest poll included 807 people nationwide, and only 89 blacks. As a result, there is a considerable margin or error -- and the findings should not be considered definitive until or unless they are validated by other polls.

David Bositis, a senior political analyst at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, which tracks African American public opinion, told me this morning that it's clear that Bush's job approval among blacks "has taken a hit from both the ongoing things in Iraq and what happened with Katrina."

But down to 2 percent? "I doubt that it's actually 2," he said.

"But would I be surprised if it's 10 or 12? No." And 10, he said, is typically "about as low as you can go" when it comes to approval ratings.

The latest Washington Post/ABC News poll, released September 13, about two weeks after Katrina hit, found Bush's job approval among blacks at 14 percent, compared to 42 percent among the general population. Exit polls showed that 11 percent of black voters voted for Bush in November 2004.

[Late Update: The Pew Research Center is just out with its latest poll, which has a larger sample, and it finds Bush's approval rating among blacks at 12 percent, down only slightly from 14 in July. Here are those results .]

greg
October 14th, 2005, 03:26 PM
now, if they would all just get out and vote :hmm:

dionysusolympus
October 14th, 2005, 03:27 PM
GWB hasn't really done anything since he's been in office per se. A lot of what he's done is whole lot of show and not a lot of substance, at least in terms of actual national emergencies (9/11, Katrina, etc. etc.).

But that comment is not racially motivated...

so :cheers: ...

greg
October 14th, 2005, 03:28 PM
:jazzgreg:

Moni Moni
October 14th, 2005, 03:29 PM
now, if they would all just get out and vote :hmm:
:agree:

KenKill75
October 14th, 2005, 03:31 PM
GWB hasn't really done anything since he's been in office per se. A lot of what he's done is whole lot of show and not a lot of substance, at least in terms of actual national emergencies (9/11, Katrina, etc. etc.).

But that comment is not racially motivated...

so :cheers: ...


Right...as opposed to loser Clinton who managed to accomplish the crucial task of getting smoked by an ugly intern. A very successful presidency. You democrats never cease to amaze me. If 9/11 or Katrina happened during his presidency, all he would have done is shit his pants and ask his wife what to do. :gtfo: of this country you pussies.

dionysusolympus
October 14th, 2005, 03:32 PM
Right...as opposed to loser Clinton who managed to accomplish the crucial task of getting smoked by an ugly intern. A very successful presidency. You democrats never cease to amaze me. If 9/11 or Katrina happened during his presidency, all he would have done is shit his pants and ask his wife what to do. :gtfo: of this country you pussies.

I'm not a Democrat or liberal either. I'm in :paygee2:'s camp...so :neener: ...

KenKill75
October 14th, 2005, 03:33 PM
even worse

Moni Moni
October 14th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Right...as opposed to loser Clinton who managed to accomplish the crucial task of getting smoked by an ugly intern. A very successful presidency. You democrats never cease to amaze me. If 9/11 or Katrina happened during his presidency, all he would have done is shit his pants and ask his wife what to do. :gtfo: of this country you pussies.

at least we weren't in debt up to our eyeballs and stuggling to by gas
:ninja:

greg
October 14th, 2005, 03:34 PM
how very first amendment of you, ken

KenKill75
October 14th, 2005, 03:34 PM
at least we weren't in debt up to our eyeballs and stuggling to by gas
:ninja:

the only reason that wouldnt have happened with you democrat cocksuckers is because you would have stood by and did nothing after our country was attacked. Go smoke your pot and leave the thinking to those of us who havent fried our brains.

Moni Moni
October 14th, 2005, 03:53 PM
the only reason that wouldnt have happened with you democrat cocksuckers is because you would have stood by and did nothing after our country was attacked. Go smoke your pot and leave the thinking to those of us who havent fried our brains.

wow ken that hurt :sad:

KenKill75
October 14th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Sorry hun. :wink:

Pudie
October 14th, 2005, 04:59 PM
the only reason that wouldnt have happened with you democrat cocksuckers is because you would have stood by and did nothing after our country was attacked. Go smoke your pot and leave the thinking to those of us who havent fried our brains.
Yea. Because Clinton never lobbed missles. Bush is a trigger happy cock sucker looking to shoot anyone that looks at him wrong.

Clinton managed to keep the nation on happy, keep other nations happy, keep the economy up(very up), all while getting a hummer and impeached. It wasn't untill Bush took office that things went downhill.

granted 9/11 has something to do with that, but he could have done stuff to make things better instead of going even deeper into the whole, making the rest of the world hate us, start wars that should have even been started, and having the lowest approval rating of any president. Ever.

It's all fine and dandy that you are a Republican. We are all entitled to our own beliefs. But I don't see how ANYONE can think Bush is actually doing a good job.