Capt
October 13th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Avery n'est rien pour la LNH
Georges Laraque
Samedi 01 octobre 2005 - Un peu comme un enfant, je suis excité à quelques jours de l'ouverture de la saison 2005-06 dans la LNH. On a tous hâte de jouer pour vrai. Ça fait déjà quatre fois que nous affrontons les Flames de Calgary et à cela, il faudra ajouter les huit parties de saison régulière. On est vraiment tanné de les voir. Il faut que ça commence.
La mise en échec de Denis Gauthier des Coyotes de Phoenix contre Jeremy Roenick des Kings de Los Angeles a été au centre des discussions au cours de la dernière semaine mais les déclarations maladroites de Sean Avery ont suscité encore plus de réactions. D'abord, je tiens à préciser que la mise en échec était légale. Elle était très solide -on en convient- mais légale.
Je comprends la frustration de J.R. car il s'agissait d'une rencontre préparatoire et qu'il a subi une commotion cérébrale mais ce dernier ne doit pas oublier que le hockey de la LNH est un sport de contact. Connaissez-vous un règlement qui dit qu'il est interdit de frapper lors des matchs pré-saisons? Moi, je n'en connais pas. Les déclarations de Roenick étaient ridicules. Qu'est-ce que Roenick voulait, que Gauthier le laisse passer et le laisse marquer? Ben voyons donc. Il n'a aucune raison de blâmer Gauthier.
Avec ses déclarations contre les joueurs francophones qui portent des visières, Avery s'est pris pour Roenick. Mais entre nous, qui est Sean Avery? La majorité des joueurs de la ligue ne le connaissent pas et on ne sait même pas s'il se taillera une place avec les Kings. Avery, qui n'a que 70 parties en carrière dans la LNH, est un agitateur. Il n'est rien et la LNH n'a pas besoin d'un joueur comme lui.
Cliquez ici!
Avery a été raciste en déclarant qu'il était typique des joueurs francophones qui portent des visières d'agir de la sorte. Si Roenick avait fait une déclaration du genre, ça aurait certes eu plus de poids mais Avery. Il a attaqué tous les francophones qui portent une visière. Il y en a beaucoup de ces joueurs à Montréal. Francis Bouillon par exemple, un joueur de petit gabarit qui porte une visière, est un des joueurs les plus solides de la ligue pour sa grandeur. Il n'a peur de personne sur la glace. Est-ce que je vais aller le traiter de jaune parce qu'il porte une visière?
La LNH a déjà suspendu des joueurs pour des propos racistes. Il suffit de penser à l'incident impliquant Mike Grier et Chris Simon il y a quelques années. Le cas d'Avery devrait être traité de la même façon. Il a attaqué tous les francophones qui portent des visières.
Les joueurs ne sont pas des peureux parce qu'ils portent une visière. Il s'agit avant tout d'une pièce d'équipement importante pour se protéger les yeux. Avec le nombre de bâtons élevés que l'on retrouve de nos jours, il y a beaucoup de joueurs qui ont sans doute sauvé leur carrière grâce à la visière. Les joueurs qui préconisent un jeu moins physique, les joueurs plus habiles, n'ont pas nécessairement besoin de la visière. Un joueur comme moi, qui se bat régulièrement, ne peut pas porter une visière car il serait désavantagé. Il serait dans l'obligation de retirer son casque avant d'entreprendre un combat, il serait alors nettement perdant.
Un joueur qui porte une visière n'est pas un peureux. Quand tu atteins la LNH, c'est parce que tu n'es pas peureux. Pour trouver des peureux, il faudrait plutôt regarder du côté des joueurs qui brûlent les rangs juniors et qui n'arrivent pas à s'imposer ni dans la LNH, ni dans la Ligue américaine. Ils n'arrivent pas à performer parce que le jeu est nettement plus physique dans le grand circuit.
Sean Avery: Open Mouth, Insert Hairy Foot
It looks like Los Angeles Kings forward/pest/good-at-nothing-in-particular warm body Sean Avery is still the mouthy Neanderthal Trogoldyte he always was.
Los Angeles Kings forward Sean Avery - never one to shy away from opinion - had plenty of strong words regarding Phoenix Coyotes defenceman Denis Gauthier and French Canadian hockey players.
When asked about the blueliner's hit on Kings teammate Jeremy Roenick in a preseason game Sunday night, Avery did not hold back digging into Gauthier and Quebec-born NHLers.
"I think it was a clean hit," he explained on Tuesday. "I think it was typical of most French guys in our league with a visor on, running around and playing tough and not back anything up."
"I'd think if a guy like Brett Hull was coming up the middle, somebody probably wouldn't have stepped up and hit him, but like I said, a typical move from a guy wearing a visor that certainly doesn't like to get scratched at all."
Of course, Sean didn't actually mean what he said...oh no...we're just all wrong about the guy.
"I certainly did not want to offend anyone with my comments earlier today," the statement (he released) read. "I am an emotional guy who sometimes says things that shouldn't be said. I apologize if I offended anyone."
You are sorry simply because you look stupid, not because you really feel guilty. How nice of you to see this in a 'release', rather than actually face the music yourself.
Unfortunately, his kind of attitude still persists amongst the old-school neanderthal hockey types. There seems to be this stereotype of the 'French' player as a visor-wearing pretty-boy types like Alexandre Daigle or Pierre Turgeon. I guess Sean Avery has never seen a Quebec Beer League game where the number of fights is greater than the number of goals.
...and unfortunately, the bigger problem is how many NHLers see wearing a visor as a mark of cowardice. Ok, Sean, do you wear a cup to cover your (probably small) family jewels? How about shoulder pads? Hmm?? So, how is protecting your eyes cowardly? Aren't they one of the most important parts of your body? Would you rather have eyesight or a popped out shoulder?
Anyway, I shouldn't waste any more time with this dweeb. I just hope him and Roenick don't claw each others eyes out fighting for the dressing room mirrow.
Check that. I'd like to see that happen :)
# posted by Jes Gőlbez @ 6:30 AM
http://jesgolbez.blogspot.com/2005/09/sean-avery-open-mouth-insert-hairy.html
NHL investigates Sean Avery's alleged remarks to Georges Laraque
Canadian Press
October 13, 2005
ADVERTISEMENT
LOS ANGELES (CP) - Saying it doesn't have any concrete evidence, the NHL doesn't plan any action over an alleged derogatory remark in Tuesday night's NHL game between the Edmonton Oilers and Los Angeles Kings.
Oilers forward Georges Laraque, who is black, alleged he was slurred by Kings forward Sean Avery. League disciplinarian Colin Campbell spoke to both clubs Wednesday, but was unable to confirm either player's story.
Avery was warned by the league last month when he said Denis Gauthier's hit in pre-season on Kings teammate Jeremy Roenick was "typical of most French guys in our league with a visor on, running around and playing tough and not back anything up."
Avery later apologized for his remarks but the league still put out a statement chiding him.
© The Canadian Press 2005
Avery
faceoff in front of the oiler bench and Avery is lined up with Hemsky he starts to push him and rough him up. Mctavish calls hemsky to the bench and on comes Laraque. He immediatly goes up to Avery and has a talk with him but Avery skates away. A few seconds later Conklin freezes the puck and Avery runs Smith after the whistle. Smith gets up and is pissed Avery backs up behind the net with his head swiveling looking for Laraque whos coming in but Smith drills him and Avery turtles like the punk he is.
The oilers get a 4 minute penalty out of this. Welcome to the NHL were being a punk will get your team powerplays. What a thing to promote.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/forums/showpost.php?p=522034&postcount=12
Anti-French comment stings Oiler
By ROBERT TYCHKOWSKI -- Edmonton Sun
# Oiler rookies feel heat
CALGARY -- You'd never hear anyone say most black players in the NHL play tough but then back down when someone challenges them.
Comments as racist and offensive as that aren't aired in post-game interviews. And if they were, the player who made them would be fined and suspended into oblivion.
They know better than to even think about spewing that kind of garbage.
But when it comes to ripping Frenchmen, the lips get a whole lot looser.
On Monday, Los Angeles Kings forward Sean Avery, upset with Denis Gauthier's open-ice hit on teammate Jeremy Roenick, said "it was typical of most French players in our league with a visor on, running around and playing tough and not backing anything up."
Avery later made a brief apology via a press release. And that was it. No public outrage. No supplementary discipline or even a stinging condemnation from the league.
Oilers defenceman Marc-Andre Bergeron, a French Canadian who wears a visor, doesn't get it.
"I wouldn't say anything like that about a group of people, that's for sure," he said before yesterday's pre-season game in Calgary.
"Because it doesn't reach only hockey players, it's a comment that hits a lot of French people right in the face, whether they play the game or not.
"I would never say anything like that. It's racism. It doesn't matter if it's about French or black or Chinese, you have to respect everyone. That's a lack of respect for sure.
"I wonder if he'll say that to Georges Laraque next time he sees him."
Avery said "most French players," not "all," so we can safely assume he didn't mean Laraque (who didn't make the trip to Calgary), but to generalize the majority of French players as posers and chickens really bothers Bergeron.
He had to be tougher than anybody knows to make the NHL as a 5-10 defenceman, and after battling the stigma that small guys can't be tough, he doesn't want to hear it about his heritage, too.
"I'm not a tough guy, but you have to be tough to get to this level, it doesn't matter who you are," he said.
"I'm an offensive defenceman, but every once in a while I'll have to play tough or scrap.
"But people say that about French players because in the Q (Quebec Junior League) we get a lot of points and people think if you're scoring a lot you're not as tough. it's kind of funny, everyone has to be tough to make it to the NHL."
Oilers prospect Jean-Francois Jacques, with a big set of guns and a nose for physical play, has heard the stereotype all his career, as well.
"I can't explain why (Avery) would say something like that. English guys wear visors, European guys wear visors. To say something like that about French players, I can't explain it.
"But I don't care. I have enough stuff to worry about than guys who say stuff like that."
so anyway the rumor is that avery taunted laraque by calling him a monkey, and that's why he got his ass beat so badly
i couldn't find the picture of him with the blood running down his face
anyway, what does everyone think about this?
Georges Laraque
Samedi 01 octobre 2005 - Un peu comme un enfant, je suis excité à quelques jours de l'ouverture de la saison 2005-06 dans la LNH. On a tous hâte de jouer pour vrai. Ça fait déjà quatre fois que nous affrontons les Flames de Calgary et à cela, il faudra ajouter les huit parties de saison régulière. On est vraiment tanné de les voir. Il faut que ça commence.
La mise en échec de Denis Gauthier des Coyotes de Phoenix contre Jeremy Roenick des Kings de Los Angeles a été au centre des discussions au cours de la dernière semaine mais les déclarations maladroites de Sean Avery ont suscité encore plus de réactions. D'abord, je tiens à préciser que la mise en échec était légale. Elle était très solide -on en convient- mais légale.
Je comprends la frustration de J.R. car il s'agissait d'une rencontre préparatoire et qu'il a subi une commotion cérébrale mais ce dernier ne doit pas oublier que le hockey de la LNH est un sport de contact. Connaissez-vous un règlement qui dit qu'il est interdit de frapper lors des matchs pré-saisons? Moi, je n'en connais pas. Les déclarations de Roenick étaient ridicules. Qu'est-ce que Roenick voulait, que Gauthier le laisse passer et le laisse marquer? Ben voyons donc. Il n'a aucune raison de blâmer Gauthier.
Avec ses déclarations contre les joueurs francophones qui portent des visières, Avery s'est pris pour Roenick. Mais entre nous, qui est Sean Avery? La majorité des joueurs de la ligue ne le connaissent pas et on ne sait même pas s'il se taillera une place avec les Kings. Avery, qui n'a que 70 parties en carrière dans la LNH, est un agitateur. Il n'est rien et la LNH n'a pas besoin d'un joueur comme lui.
Cliquez ici!
Avery a été raciste en déclarant qu'il était typique des joueurs francophones qui portent des visières d'agir de la sorte. Si Roenick avait fait une déclaration du genre, ça aurait certes eu plus de poids mais Avery. Il a attaqué tous les francophones qui portent une visière. Il y en a beaucoup de ces joueurs à Montréal. Francis Bouillon par exemple, un joueur de petit gabarit qui porte une visière, est un des joueurs les plus solides de la ligue pour sa grandeur. Il n'a peur de personne sur la glace. Est-ce que je vais aller le traiter de jaune parce qu'il porte une visière?
La LNH a déjà suspendu des joueurs pour des propos racistes. Il suffit de penser à l'incident impliquant Mike Grier et Chris Simon il y a quelques années. Le cas d'Avery devrait être traité de la même façon. Il a attaqué tous les francophones qui portent des visières.
Les joueurs ne sont pas des peureux parce qu'ils portent une visière. Il s'agit avant tout d'une pièce d'équipement importante pour se protéger les yeux. Avec le nombre de bâtons élevés que l'on retrouve de nos jours, il y a beaucoup de joueurs qui ont sans doute sauvé leur carrière grâce à la visière. Les joueurs qui préconisent un jeu moins physique, les joueurs plus habiles, n'ont pas nécessairement besoin de la visière. Un joueur comme moi, qui se bat régulièrement, ne peut pas porter une visière car il serait désavantagé. Il serait dans l'obligation de retirer son casque avant d'entreprendre un combat, il serait alors nettement perdant.
Un joueur qui porte une visière n'est pas un peureux. Quand tu atteins la LNH, c'est parce que tu n'es pas peureux. Pour trouver des peureux, il faudrait plutôt regarder du côté des joueurs qui brûlent les rangs juniors et qui n'arrivent pas à s'imposer ni dans la LNH, ni dans la Ligue américaine. Ils n'arrivent pas à performer parce que le jeu est nettement plus physique dans le grand circuit.
Sean Avery: Open Mouth, Insert Hairy Foot
It looks like Los Angeles Kings forward/pest/good-at-nothing-in-particular warm body Sean Avery is still the mouthy Neanderthal Trogoldyte he always was.
Los Angeles Kings forward Sean Avery - never one to shy away from opinion - had plenty of strong words regarding Phoenix Coyotes defenceman Denis Gauthier and French Canadian hockey players.
When asked about the blueliner's hit on Kings teammate Jeremy Roenick in a preseason game Sunday night, Avery did not hold back digging into Gauthier and Quebec-born NHLers.
"I think it was a clean hit," he explained on Tuesday. "I think it was typical of most French guys in our league with a visor on, running around and playing tough and not back anything up."
"I'd think if a guy like Brett Hull was coming up the middle, somebody probably wouldn't have stepped up and hit him, but like I said, a typical move from a guy wearing a visor that certainly doesn't like to get scratched at all."
Of course, Sean didn't actually mean what he said...oh no...we're just all wrong about the guy.
"I certainly did not want to offend anyone with my comments earlier today," the statement (he released) read. "I am an emotional guy who sometimes says things that shouldn't be said. I apologize if I offended anyone."
You are sorry simply because you look stupid, not because you really feel guilty. How nice of you to see this in a 'release', rather than actually face the music yourself.
Unfortunately, his kind of attitude still persists amongst the old-school neanderthal hockey types. There seems to be this stereotype of the 'French' player as a visor-wearing pretty-boy types like Alexandre Daigle or Pierre Turgeon. I guess Sean Avery has never seen a Quebec Beer League game where the number of fights is greater than the number of goals.
...and unfortunately, the bigger problem is how many NHLers see wearing a visor as a mark of cowardice. Ok, Sean, do you wear a cup to cover your (probably small) family jewels? How about shoulder pads? Hmm?? So, how is protecting your eyes cowardly? Aren't they one of the most important parts of your body? Would you rather have eyesight or a popped out shoulder?
Anyway, I shouldn't waste any more time with this dweeb. I just hope him and Roenick don't claw each others eyes out fighting for the dressing room mirrow.
Check that. I'd like to see that happen :)
# posted by Jes Gőlbez @ 6:30 AM
http://jesgolbez.blogspot.com/2005/09/sean-avery-open-mouth-insert-hairy.html
NHL investigates Sean Avery's alleged remarks to Georges Laraque
Canadian Press
October 13, 2005
ADVERTISEMENT
LOS ANGELES (CP) - Saying it doesn't have any concrete evidence, the NHL doesn't plan any action over an alleged derogatory remark in Tuesday night's NHL game between the Edmonton Oilers and Los Angeles Kings.
Oilers forward Georges Laraque, who is black, alleged he was slurred by Kings forward Sean Avery. League disciplinarian Colin Campbell spoke to both clubs Wednesday, but was unable to confirm either player's story.
Avery was warned by the league last month when he said Denis Gauthier's hit in pre-season on Kings teammate Jeremy Roenick was "typical of most French guys in our league with a visor on, running around and playing tough and not back anything up."
Avery later apologized for his remarks but the league still put out a statement chiding him.
© The Canadian Press 2005
Avery
faceoff in front of the oiler bench and Avery is lined up with Hemsky he starts to push him and rough him up. Mctavish calls hemsky to the bench and on comes Laraque. He immediatly goes up to Avery and has a talk with him but Avery skates away. A few seconds later Conklin freezes the puck and Avery runs Smith after the whistle. Smith gets up and is pissed Avery backs up behind the net with his head swiveling looking for Laraque whos coming in but Smith drills him and Avery turtles like the punk he is.
The oilers get a 4 minute penalty out of this. Welcome to the NHL were being a punk will get your team powerplays. What a thing to promote.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/forums/showpost.php?p=522034&postcount=12
Anti-French comment stings Oiler
By ROBERT TYCHKOWSKI -- Edmonton Sun
# Oiler rookies feel heat
CALGARY -- You'd never hear anyone say most black players in the NHL play tough but then back down when someone challenges them.
Comments as racist and offensive as that aren't aired in post-game interviews. And if they were, the player who made them would be fined and suspended into oblivion.
They know better than to even think about spewing that kind of garbage.
But when it comes to ripping Frenchmen, the lips get a whole lot looser.
On Monday, Los Angeles Kings forward Sean Avery, upset with Denis Gauthier's open-ice hit on teammate Jeremy Roenick, said "it was typical of most French players in our league with a visor on, running around and playing tough and not backing anything up."
Avery later made a brief apology via a press release. And that was it. No public outrage. No supplementary discipline or even a stinging condemnation from the league.
Oilers defenceman Marc-Andre Bergeron, a French Canadian who wears a visor, doesn't get it.
"I wouldn't say anything like that about a group of people, that's for sure," he said before yesterday's pre-season game in Calgary.
"Because it doesn't reach only hockey players, it's a comment that hits a lot of French people right in the face, whether they play the game or not.
"I would never say anything like that. It's racism. It doesn't matter if it's about French or black or Chinese, you have to respect everyone. That's a lack of respect for sure.
"I wonder if he'll say that to Georges Laraque next time he sees him."
Avery said "most French players," not "all," so we can safely assume he didn't mean Laraque (who didn't make the trip to Calgary), but to generalize the majority of French players as posers and chickens really bothers Bergeron.
He had to be tougher than anybody knows to make the NHL as a 5-10 defenceman, and after battling the stigma that small guys can't be tough, he doesn't want to hear it about his heritage, too.
"I'm not a tough guy, but you have to be tough to get to this level, it doesn't matter who you are," he said.
"I'm an offensive defenceman, but every once in a while I'll have to play tough or scrap.
"But people say that about French players because in the Q (Quebec Junior League) we get a lot of points and people think if you're scoring a lot you're not as tough. it's kind of funny, everyone has to be tough to make it to the NHL."
Oilers prospect Jean-Francois Jacques, with a big set of guns and a nose for physical play, has heard the stereotype all his career, as well.
"I can't explain why (Avery) would say something like that. English guys wear visors, European guys wear visors. To say something like that about French players, I can't explain it.
"But I don't care. I have enough stuff to worry about than guys who say stuff like that."
so anyway the rumor is that avery taunted laraque by calling him a monkey, and that's why he got his ass beat so badly
i couldn't find the picture of him with the blood running down his face
anyway, what does everyone think about this?