The Official NFL Thread..

[bleuMadonna]

Holy :shit: I knew the Eagles would lose, but this is an embarrassment:

7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter and the score is 42-0 Seahawks :agape: :what:

[Agent]

thanks to the seatle def i just won $100 fantasy football style... gave me 44 points

[dionysusolympus]

Holy :shit: I knew the Eagles would lose, but this is an embarrassment:

7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter and the score is 42-0 Seahawks :agape: :what:

:woo: :woo: :woo:

Iggles > Jets...

[jazz]

can you imagine having paid for tickets, parking, overpriced food and drinks, and freezing your ASS off for the eagles to lose that bad? i'm surprised the game wasn't televised on :cnn:

[MojoFearsSatan]

:uhh: you're not talking to me right?? I'm not a Chargers fan... :confused:

I make fun of Eli like I do these other twits that enter the NFL, not having proven themselves professionally, demanding instead of elated they get to play a professional sport that too many others would give a left testicle to be a part of...

I couldn't care less about Eli... I'm only worried about the Chiefs... so I said 'go chargers because they have the broncos coming up and i want the broncos to LOSE... always LOSE God I HATE and DESPISE that fucking football team...

The 'retarded dance' comment is funny though :lmao:

well, since this is about the third time you've made moaning comments about Eli being too big for his britches, and in this latest one you added the magic words "Go Chargers!" at the bottom, I didn't think it was TOO unreasonable to assume you supported them? After all, you know, that WAS where Eli was drafted and kicked up his fuss; and since you kept bringing it up...

[Bruce]

can you imagine having paid for tickets, parking, overpriced food and drinks, and freezing your ASS off for the eagles to lose that bad? i'm surprised the game wasn't televised on :cnn:


:cnn: ? How about UPN?

[bleuMadonna]

can you imagine having paid for tickets, parking, overpriced food and drinks, and freezing your ASS off for the eagles to lose that bad? i'm surprised the game wasn't televised on :cnn:
If it wasn't for the Reggie White ceremony retiring his number and all at half-time, that place would have been empty by the end of the first quarter.

[Fhilly]

:ha: great game, Eagles. You make Jets fans happier :innocent:

[MojoFearsSatan]

I love how the fans were getting really pissed off at McMahon so they put Koy Detmer on and what I think was his first throw (maybe not, certainly one of them) was yet another interception. As Madden said on the commentary though, the receivers didn't help him much...

[bleuMadonna]

THe Birds have no receivers...

[Bruce]

AFC clinched.

1st week bye.

Homefield throughout.

Wait for it...




































wait...



























:woo:



13-0

http://www.byrchewroot.com/images/Jersey2.jpg

[MojoFearsSatan]

eagles are really bad... leaked a TD already!

well, I don't care, I got a surprisingly good result out of the weekend. How's about that Chicago defence...

[bleuMadonna]

LOL, you rock, ByrchWroot. Nice shirt!

Lucky 13! They got a little lax in the fourth quarter, though, hehe. Still, a W is a W...doesn't matter how ya win it.

My Patriots won today, too :woo:...and in fine blowout fashion. They needed that.

[MojoFearsSatan]

gah, fuck you Dallas defense!!! your offense better bail me out... San Diego are losing. Pittsburgh won. Need KC to lose too and then the wildcards are back wide open. OK, so Cincy won which i didn't want, but you know, they've got the division, may as well accept it.

edit: my apologies to dallas. you pulled it out. LUCKY.

[jazz]

now that we've played the chargers (and defeated them), i could go back to liking san diego again.

:yay: we might not do anything this year, but nick saban's got this team headed the right way.

[bleuMadonna]

That was quite a game, jazz! And the Cowgirls' offense came through, but really, the KC kicker gagged. They could have tied it, but he missed wide right, I believe.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Hence why I edited to add "lucky" - because, indeed, Lawrence Tynes whiffed on a game-tying field goal.

[Fhilly]

feely done good :agape:

[bleuMadonna]

^^^ Yup, he didn't choke this time.

[jazz]

That was quite a game, jazz! And the Cowgirls' offense came through, but really, the KC kicker gagged. They could have tied it, but he missed wide right, I believe.
right after the dolphins game ended, they switched right over to that game. i was rooting for the cowboys since the chiefs are in the AFC and fuck em. they beat us this year.

[bleuMadonna]

right after the dolphins game ended, they switched right over to that game. i was rooting for the cowboys since the chiefs are in the AFC and fuck em. they beat us this year.
Haha, same here, plus, I picked those rotten bastage Cowgirls to win, so yeah :bleu:

[jazz]

oh yeah, and i don't like the chiefs' coach. he looks like a twat.

[bleuMadonna]

oh yeah, and i don't like the chiefs' coach. he looks like a twat.
:lmao:

And he cries too much :gap:

[bleuMadonna]

:lisha: will be upset, though. :frown:

[jazz]

:lmao:

And he cries too much :gap:
did you see his reaction when dallas scored that last touchdown? he almost ripped off the other coach's arm and said something like: "wtf was that?!"

[bleuMadonna]

did you see his reaction when dallas scored that last touchdown? he almost ripped off the other coach's arm and said something like: "wtf was that?!"
No, sadly, haha.

[jazz]

they showed it in slo-mo. it was funny reading the "wtf was that" comment he made.

[bleuMadonna]

:up:

[PatrickBateman]

did you see his reaction when dallas scored that last touchdown? he almost ripped off the other coach's arm and said something like: "wtf was that?!"


I saw that.....D coordinator(or whoever the fuck that was) knew it was coming, too...

Nice drive at the end to gain the lead back. Bledsoe looked damn good.



Too bad the fucking Giants won as well......Feel bad for whoever does the Giants' laundry....everyones pants must have been packed with shit when Feely stepped up to the plate.

[jazz]

i bet shockey didn't do this: http://www.encircling.us/images/gif/shockeytard.gif until he was sure.

and that defensive coordinator was trying to walk the other way, thus the near pulling off of the arm.

[PatrickBateman]

i bet shockey didn't do this: http://www.encircling.us/images/gif/shockeytard.gif until he was sure.

and that defensive coordinator was trying to walk the other way, thus the near pulling off of the arm.



whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttt thhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccckkkk kkkkkkkkkkk

classic


lol again at Shockey.....they showed that clip again last night

[Modus Ponens]

We Want Dallas!!
We Want Dallas!!
We Want Dallas!!
We Want Dallas!!
We Want Dallas!!
We Want Dallas!!
We Want Dallas!!
We Want Dallas!!

[Bruce]

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:kneeslap:

[MojoFearsSatan]

Is this joke appalling? Yes.
Should you groan rather than laugh at it? Yes.
Could I resist posting it? No.


A kid goes to school one day wearing a Pittsburgh Steelers jersey. As the boy is walking to class, a teacher stops him. The teacher asks him, "are you a Steelers fan?" The boy nods. The teacher then asked, "well, why are you a Steelers fan?" The boy replied with, "Because both my parents are Steelers fans." The teacher is rather annoyed with his answer and says, "You know, it's not good to imitate your parents 100%. I mean, what if your dad was a drug dealer and your mom was a hooker?" The little boy smiled and replied, "Then I'd be an Eagles fan."

[MAGO]

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!snap!

[dionysusolympus]

:mkd:

[breastnorton]

hey mojo, how did you end up being a steelers fan?

i'm always curious about things like that

[jazz]

:yay: for jazz... that's one non-dissapointment this year so far...



i don't know how i missed your post, but :hug:

[MojoFearsSatan]

I live in the british Steel City, Sheffield (our local ice hockey team is the Sheffield Steelers, though I didn't know that at the time); and I took to them when NFL Blitz used to be on on sundays a few years back, along with the Raiders, 'cause they wore black...

[breastnorton]

understood

i guess living in st. louis i should be a rams fan, but i still don't care about them

i do enjoy seeing a nice offense execute well, so i enjoyed the kurt warner, marshal faulk, holt era while it lasted, and the colts have it going on right now

if you enjoy soccer, who are your favorite teams? do you fancy england's chances next year at the WC?

[jazz]

i hope they show the san diego/indy game here on local tv.

:pray:

we play the jets at 1pm sunday.

[dionysusolympus]

:james2: > jets

[MojoFearsSatan]

understood

i guess living in st. louis i should be a rams fan, but i still don't care about them

i do enjoy seeing a nice offense execute well, so i enjoyed the kurt warner, marshal faulk, holt era while it lasted, and the colts have it going on right now

well, you know, the Rams right now aren't really a particularly appealing team, lol. You could say the same about the Steelers I guess, but they sure give you their fair share of heart in mouth moments and nutty calls.

if you enjoy soccer, who are your favorite teams? do you fancy england's chances next year at the WC?

Norwich City, because they're the team from where I originally came from... well, the nearest team anyway. They're in the "Championship", which is the second division in England. Out of teams that actually are successful, I quite like Liverpool because they're not as obnoxious as Man Utd or Arsenal (those managers, fucking hell :rage:...) and they haven't just thrown the wallet at problems like Chelsea... need a salary cap in soccer. I don't fancy England's chances because though the side is filled with big names, they dont work that well together, and Sven doesn't have the balls to take off a big name if they're playing badly. We'll get to the quarters or the semis but there's no way we're winning the thing.

I prefer watching "gridiron" nowadays anyway. Much smarter game. Most "football" games I see bore me to tears; I guess that because possession isn't sacrosanct there is no stigma attached to turnovers like there is in American Football and Rugby (which is my favourite Britihs sport)

[dionysusolympus]

:james2: > liverpool

[breastnorton]

i'm thinking brazil takes the cup again, so much talent and they really flow well with each other

while i enjoy every premiership game i can catch (one per week or so, and some champions league games) they only club team i can support is borussia dortmund

do you watch any baseball, or is that far too boring for most british people?

[dionysusolympus]

i'm thinking brazil takes the cup again, so much talent and they really flow well with each other

while i enjoy every premiership game i can catch (one per week or so, and some champions league games) they only club team i can support is borussia dortmund

do you watch any baseball, or is that far too boring for most british people?

:james2: > baseball

[jazz]

:jazzdio:

[MojoFearsSatan]

i'm thinking brazil takes the cup again, so much talent and they really flow well with each other

while i enjoy every premiership game i can catch (one per week or so, and some champions league games) they only club team i can support is borussia dortmund

do you watch any baseball, or is that far too boring for most british people?

it's enough of a challenge staying up for the NFL on 5, lol. I usually catch the first half of SNF and MNF and tape the rest; though I stayed up all the way through for Steelers-Ravens and Steelers-Colts, for obvious reasons (though we only got SNF recently so missed a couple of games I'd have liked to have seen, not just Pittsburgh). They don't have baseball on often and when they do it's like, an all night thing. I sometimes try to catch a bit of it on NASN when I'm at my family home but we don't subscribe so I can only catch a half hour or so. I don't find it that appealing tbh; I think I just need to know the rules better. It just comes with familiarity, I think. I don't think it can be considered too boring for most british people, since we're the country that invented Cricket... though that's been shortening itself for a while to stop being so dull. And yeah, most British people don't know shit about any of the american sports, including football, most people find it far too boring, and because they don't know what's going on, they don't understand the stop-start nature of it, and that prevents them really getting into it, I think. I always found it intriguing but it was only once I figured out 90% of the rules that I was able to enjoy watching a live game (they used to do a repeat showing of the SNF game the following day on Sky but with all the breaks between plays taken out)

[bleuMadonna]

The Patriots rolled today over the Bucs :yay:...I know they haven't played the greatest offenses the last two weeks, but two shutouts in a row are sweet :bleu:. GOOOO PATS :woo:

[MojoFearsSatan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it not a shutout last week? It was 35-7 vs. Bills, right?

[bleuMadonna]

Oh yeah...I forgot about the late TD :blush:

[Fhilly]

woo.. another giants win :yay:

Tiki Barber > NFL
he totally owned the game.

and feely must've been wearing his lucky socks :agape:

[KenKill75]

The Giants could very well have been 12-2 right now.

[KenKill75]

Colts suck :shame:

[Bruce]

Colts suck :shame:


San Diego simply played a better game. We couldn't keep the pressure off Manning. They deserved the win.

:crying2:

[Keith Moon]

- Way to go, Jason... :rolleyes:, :shame:.

[Bruce]

If it hadn't been for my ACL, I'd have been in there to help. :shrug:

[Modus Ponens]

Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the Warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!
Run or pass and score -- we want a lot more!
Beat 'em, Swamp 'em,
Touchdown! -- Let the points soar!
Fight on, fight on 'Til you have won
Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah!
Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the Warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!

[PatrickBateman]

Fucking foreskins owned the cowboys yesterday..........:mystery:

[jazz]

- Way to go, Jason... :rolleyes:, :shame:.
hey, at least the dolphins keep their record intact.

[Bruce]

I'm somewhat glad they lost. Now they can leave all the pressure of an undefeated season behind and focus on what is important. The Super Bowl.

[dionysusolympus]

To :greg2: ...

Iggles > Rams.

:sarcasm:

[Modus Ponens]

Picture worth a 1000 words.............
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/FDX20112190054.jpg

[jazz]

I'm somewhat glad they lost. Now they can leave all the pressure of an undefeated season behind and focus on what is important. The Super Bowl.
i have no doubt they'll win it.

[jazz]

...oh, and the dolphins got to .500 which i would have never expected after last season. even though they're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs this year, i really can't wait for next season as it seems (:cross:) more promising.

[Modus Ponens]

i have no doubt they'll win it.

Beating New England in the regular season is one thing. They had better hope they don't have to face them in the post-season now that the Pats are getting healthy on defense.

[jazz]

Beating New England in the regular season is one thing. They had better hope they don't have to face them in the post-season now that the Pats are getting healthy on defense.
yep, that's one roadblock they better brace for.

[MojoFearsSatan]

well, as long as they remember that little piece of analysis of Madden's in your sig, I'm sure they'll be fine.

[Bruce]

BRILLIANT!

[Agent]

pats 20 colts 10 you read it here first.......

[jazz]

well, as long as they remember that little piece of analysis of Madden's in your sig, I'm sure they'll be fine.
he makes only the finest observations.

[dionysusolympus]

To :greg2: ...

Iggles > Rams.

:sarcasm:

:bump:

lol

/:rytard:

[Keith Moon]

- Colossal :no:.

[bleuMadonna]

I'm somewhat glad they lost. Now they can leave all the pressure of an undefeated season behind and focus on what is important. The Super Bowl.
Watch out for my Pats :bleu:

[Keith Moon]

Watch out for my Pats :bleu:


http://atangledweb.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/soupnazi.jpg

- "No Souper Bowls for you! You come back one year!!"

[Bruce]

Watch out for my Pats :bleu:


:ohnoes:


































:hahano:

[Modus Ponens]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/therealjbird_/PRICELESS.jpg

[jazz]

no offense, :bleu:, but anyone except the pats this year...please! :yawn:

i will, however, be cheering for them when they play the jets on monday night. :wink:

[MojoFearsSatan]

similarly; anyone but the Pats... I think all the teams I hate are now out of the running...

hard luck to Miami for doing everything right yet still being eliminated, though. Big haw-haw to Green Bay for losing again and losing nigh on the only thing that's been good for them this season in Samkon Gado...

[bleuMadonna]

no offense, :bleu:, but anyone except the pats this year...please! :yawn:
:crying: It would be something if they found a way to win it again. They certainly aren't going down without a fight. I :heart: my boys.

i will, however, be cheering for them when they play the jets on monday night. :wink:
:inlove:

[Modus Ponens]

:crying: It would be something if they found a way to win it again. They certainly aren't going down without a fight. I :heart: my boys.


:inlove:

Noone, and I mean noone wants to play the Pats in the playoffs right now. They are finally getting healthy which makes them very, very dangerous.

[jazz]

hard luck to Miami for doing everything right yet still being eliminated, though.
well, they started doing everything right too little, too late, but saban's got them going in the right direction. at least that.

[Modus Ponens]

well, they started doing everything right too little, too late, but saban's got them going in the right direction. at least that.

They need a QB in a bad way.

[jazz]

oh yeah...

[Tzarina]

:sigh: I'm miffed with the Chiefs... :crying: How CAN one team just give away so many games...??? :brick:

PS... I HATE the Broncos... that is all...

[MojoFearsSatan]

don't KC face the Chargers tomorrow? Do us a favour and beat them, since if Jacksonville decide to be assholes and lose a match, then if Steelers and Chargers both win both games Jax and San Diego go through on conference record, while if Jax win both or lose both Pittsburgh are ahead of San Diego 'cause they beat them.

So for one day I can be a Chiefs fan, despite having been determined to see them lose for a couple of weeks.

[Tzarina]

don't KC face the Chargers tomorrow? Do us a favour and beat them, since if Jacksonville decide to be assholes and lose a match, then if Steelers and Chargers both win both games Jax and San Diego go through on conference record, while if Jax win both or lose both Pittsburgh are ahead of San Diego 'cause they beat them.

So for one day I can be a Chiefs fan, despite having been determined to see them lose for a couple of weeks.

Yes, KC plays the Chargers this week, and the Bengals next week... If the Steelers lose a game, and KC wins both, they still make the playoffs, which I'm wondering if they deserve at this point...
BUT...
As a raging Chiefs fan, I'll still be hoping... but if your going to root for the Chiefs, I will say this...
Be prepared to be annoyed...
You never know which damn Chiefs team will show up... The great offense and decent defense... or the pile of shit that says they are playing football, with wonderful Larry Johnson running around... Some damn consistancy would have been nice this season :shame:
:sigh:
I love my Chiefs, but geez guys... beating Denver does not make the season.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Everything fell into place nicely. Jacksonville and Pittsburgh both won, whilst San Diego lost eliminating that pesky three-way 11-5 tie that woulda seen the Steelers dumped. Thank you Larry Johnson, Trent Green, Lawrence Tynes and co.

[Modus Ponens]

Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the Warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!
Run or pass and score -- we want a lot more!
Beat 'em, Swamp 'em,
Touchdown! -- Let the points soar!
Fight on, fight on 'Til you have won
Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah!
Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the Warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!

http://www.redskins.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/MEABAGODHNDP/56486021PG.jpg

[jazz]

dolphins win.

they're not going to the playoffs, but hey, they won. :shrug:

[bleuMadonna]

Pats won, but Bruschi and Samuel were hurt. And getting injury talk from Belichick is like pulling teeth. He's locked up tighter than Fort Knox :shame: Supposedly, Bruschi didn't break a leg or anything and he walked out of the locker room under his own power, so I guess that's a plus. Dolphins on Sunday. The Fins may win this one because I'm wondering how many starters will actually play.

[jazz]

The Fins may win this one because I'm wondering how many starters will actually play.
:eric:

[bleuMadonna]

:eric:
:bleu: sowwy, :jazz:...Your boys actually have been playing much better lately.

[jazz]

i hope it carries over to next season cause it'll get exciting in our division.

[bleuMadonna]

For real.

[jazz]

i know you secretly cheer for the dolphins because of your sister and maybe a little cause of me...i do the same with the pats. except of course when they play us or threaten our playoff chances (like this season).

[Fhilly]

Giants love to turn an uplifting season into a disspointment, don't they? Better start playing better.

At least the Pats didn't shut out the Jets.

And my 12-2 fantasy team (that was autodrafted, may i add) lost 91-93 as well..tiki just had to get 94 points on the bye week.. :cry:

[jazz]

At least the Pats didn't shut out the Jets.
hey, at least the jets ended monday night football the way they started it when they played the browns in that first-ever game. with a loss.

:MAGO3:

[Modus Ponens]

Giants love to turn an uplifting season into a disspointment, don't they? Better start playing better.

At least the Pats didn't shut out the Jets.

And my 12-2 fantasy team (that was autodrafted, may i add) lost 91-93 as well..tiki just had to get 94 points on the bye week.. :cry:

Let's go Raidahs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bleuMadonna]

i know you secretly cheer for the dolphins because of your sister and maybe a little cause of me...i do the same with the pats. except of course when they play us or threaten our playoff chances (like this season).
:ontome: :bleu:...

[Person]

How's Ben Graham doing for the Jets?

[Keith Moon]

- Last game of the regular season! :woo: The only good thing that can come out of the Rams craptacular season is keeping the Cowboys from going to the playoffs.

[bleuMadonna]

Go Rams! I so loathe the Cowgirls.

[bleuMadonna]

Oh, and, :jazz:...begruding congrats to the Fish. They actually could be pretty good next year :ohnoes: :bleu:

[Bruce]

Colts won.

Finish with 14-2 record.

Nice of them to broadcast it here today too. :captslap: network

:blah:

[jazz]

Oh, and, :jazz:...begruding congrats to the Fish. They actually could be pretty good next year :ohnoes: :bleu:
thank you, bleu, but i would have preferred us winning playing your starters the entire game, but i understand that they don't want to risk injury.

and i'm very proud of the dolphins, especially after the terrible season last year. we wound up 9-7 and undefeated in december (which is extremely rare for us).

[breastnorton]

Colts won.

Finish with 13-2 record.

Nice of them to broadcast it here today too. :captslap: network14-2

[bleuMadonna]

thank you, bleu, but i would have preferred us winning playing your starters the entire game, but i understand that they don't want to risk injury.

and i'm very proud of the dolphins, especially after the terrible season last year. we wound up 9-7 and undefeated in december (which is extremely rare for us).
Yeah, I was kind of bummed they pulled the starters out so early. My bro and nephew got free tickets to the game, too, bastages!

[Keith Moon]

Go Rams! I so loathe the Cowgirls.



- Nevermind...the Cowboys can't get into the playoffs. :nanner9:

[bleuMadonna]

D'OH, that's right, because the Skins won...

[Modus Ponens]

D'OH, that's right, because the Skins won...


http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/PXS10501020102.jpg

[MojoFearsSatan]

When he did that dive I could so see him rolling over clutching his knee or something, I know it put the capper on but it looked so ugly, lol.

After a nice run of three, a good time for Big Ben to start throwing interceptions again... leave it to the Bus in short yardage, fine, but 7-16 with two picks is not what you want as a lead in to the playoffs...

[Modus Ponens]

When he did that dive I could so see him rolling over clutching his knee or something, I know it put the capper on but it looked so ugly, lol.

After a nice run of three, a good time for Big Ben to start throwing interceptions again... leave it to the Bus in short yardage, fine, but 7-16 with two picks is not what you want as a lead in to the playoffs...

Sean Taylor is a man-beast.


Brunell had a day like Big Ben. 9-25 with an INT. Most of their throws were high which is what happens when the QB isn't 100% healthy. Both of them should be a good bit better come next week. NFL.com is saying that the Skins and Steelers are the most dangerous 6 seeds in history.

[jazz]

is this pic badass or what?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/photo/2006-01/21233419.jpg

next year guys, next fucking year.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/photo/2006-01/21233433.jpg

[jazz]

here's a shitload of 2005 dolphin pics:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/orl-spt-dolphins2005pg,0,2614973.photogallery?coll=sfla-sports-utility-dolphins

[bleuMadonna]

That first pic is cool. I love those mid-air shots.

[jazz]

you know, i used to hate that the dolphins would always wear all-white uniforms, but i've grown accustomed to it and actually prefer it now.

[bleuMadonna]

They look classy.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Sean Taylor is a man-beast.


Brunell had a day like Big Ben. 9-25 with an INT. Most of their throws were high which is what happens when the QB isn't 100% healthy. Both of them should be a good bit better come next week. NFL.com is saying that the Skins and Steelers are the most dangerous 6 seeds in history.

Mainly 'cause they're both on monstrous runs at the moment... and with QBs not fully fit too. Now if the Steelers can get a game out of Roth like they did LAST TIME against Cincinnati - minus the INTs - and a game out of Willie Parker like they did the FIRST TIME against Cincy... then we're talking. Skins-Bucs should be pretty heated, maybe even more so, especially given how the game ended out last time...

[Pudie]

So I was listening to the morning show, anf they said some guys daughter who was a sideline chick for the NFL had n00ds online. Anyone know who I am talking about?

[Modus Ponens]

especially given how the game ended out last time...

That single play is the difference between us being a #2 seed and a #6 seed.

[MojoFearsSatan]

but you have to admit, Mike Alstott has the best plunge in the NFL... on the british TV punditry they've even nicknamed it the 'Alstott Launch' in honour of how good his plunge is, lol.

[Modus Ponens]

but you have to admit, Mike Alstott has the best plunge in the NFL... on the british TV punditry they've even nicknamed it the 'Alstott Launch' in honour of how good his plunge is, lol.

I still think he's the most overrated player in the NFL next to Roy Williams (Cowgirls).

[MojoFearsSatan]

I don't care if all he has is the plunge, it's the best plunge in the NFL.

[Fhilly]

:sigh:


that is all.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Eli Manning... 35.0 passer rating. Oh dear oh dear. Name one person on the Panthers offense that you would worry about hurting your team. OK, Steve Smith. Anyone else? No. OK. So why let Smith get the ball so much? New York's secondary was absolutely gutted - as in torn to shreds - through the whole season by injuries and today by Steve Smith.

Now, come on Pittsburgh. Don't let them get into a shootout. You already took out Carson. Go on.

[jazz]

i'm going for the bengals, but only because my boss likes them. if it weren't for that, i really wouldn't care either way. i'm pretty neutral on both teams.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Well, 3 out of 4 wildcard teams go through. My mates who know nothing and care less for American Football had to put up with my rather cryptic words as I got into the game (couldn't watch it live, was listening to Cincinnati radio, lol); Never thought I'd be using the words "End Around Flea Flicker" though. The poor sods were confused enough by "Bus in from five yards out, hell yes", so god help them with the former.

[Bruce]

lol

[MojoFearsSatan]

Just you wait Jason. Just you wait. You'll not beat us so easily next time! You'll still beat us, but hopefully not so easily.

[Bruce]

:agape:

[KenKill75]

Eli Manning is a pussy. Thats all.

[Fhilly]

^^

:nod:

but the whole team was playing pretty shitty

[KenKill75]

Well, the rest of the team cant do much if cocksmoker cant get any first downs.

[Modus Ponens]

^^

:nod:

but the whole team was playing pretty shitty

Giants couldn't tackle for shit today. And for that I'm thankful.

[breastnorton]

jerome bettis is still a fat, worthless piece of shit

that's all, thanks

[breastnorton]

silly carson, you knee doesn't bend that way!

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5151/palmeracl3aj.jpg

[MojoFearsSatan]

jerome bettis is still a fat, worthless piece of shit

that's all, thanks

A worthless piece of shit touted by most as a future Hall of Famer, that's all, thanks.

[breastnorton]

he's certainly a hall of famer, that's been a lock for years now

but he's got nothing to show for his career, hardly any playoff wins and no super bowls

[MojoFearsSatan]

ah, 'tis the truth. Not his fault though. He's still flattening people to this day, and I quote the guy on the Cincinnati radio station last night: "The Bus: Genetic Freak Of Nature. How can a guy close to 34, at that size, rip off moves like that and fly for 25 yards?". Cowher is 9-9 in the playoffs, soon to become 9-10; always seems to be there-or-thereabouts but never THERE.

[breastnorton]

i think that loss in 96 to the Cowboys was Cowher's one true shot

but the guy's been around for a hell of a long time considering how quickly nfl coaches get fired or just quit, really impressive how long he's been there and had good teams, just not quite the best

they'd have a good shot of being in the super bowl if they were from the nfc, but the colts patriots and broncos might all be better than the steelers

[MojoFearsSatan]

no, they pretty much ARE better than the Steelers. Never ever bet against the Pats in January, and Colts are definitely a better, more rounded side. Broncos I haven't been able to see much of this year since they're hardly on UK TV so I can't really judge them properly. I also think Pittsburgh has a tradition of trusting coaches, ha. Cowher's been there since, what, '92? Then remember just how long Chuck Noll was there before him... they've had two coaches in the last thirty years or something crazy like that.

[Agent]

pats still in.... good to go

[bleuMadonna]

I've been in Florida at my grandfather's since Saturday. I had to almost beg to watch the Pats on Saturday night. He's not into sports :ohnoes:...I didn't get to see any of the other games :frown:

[mjk870621345]

BRONCOSSSS !!!!!!!

:woo:

[jazz]

I've been in Florida at my grandfather's since Saturday. I had to almost beg to watch the Pats on Saturday night. He's not into sports :ohnoes:...I didn't get to see any of the other games :frown:
there's only one t.v. in the whole house?

grandparents. :shame:

:nelson:

[MAGO]

the jets should shock everyone and take a punter with that 4th pick.... :thehand:

[dionysusolympus]

:magodio2:

:magodio3:

:magodio4:

:magodio5:

[Keith Moon]

- If you think about it, the punter really is the unsung hero in NFL.

[MAGO]

:nanner9: ...

[jazz]

the jets should shock everyone and take a punter with that 4th pick.... :thehand:
your coach is a big-time sellout. they said he was talking with the chiefs when the season started, maybe even before that. so while he was stinking up the place as the jets head coach, he was cheating behind your backs.

i guess contracts and team loyalty don't mean shit these days.

[MAGO]

it doesn't...that's why every year players hold out, but when they have a sucky season, they're the first to camp!

[jazz]

what i can't stand are the players that give it their all only when it's a contract year.

[bleuMadonna]

there's only one t.v. in the whole house?

grandparents. :shame:

:nelson:
Well, no, but I didn't want to be antisocial since I was there to visit :bleu:

[Modus Ponens]

what i can't stand are the players that give it their all only when it's a contract year.

What, you don't like players in a "contract year"? Those guys are perfect.......if you slap the franchise tag on them. That way you actually get something out of them whether it's performance on the field for an extra year or some draft picks.

[Agent]

pats > broncos

pats > colts

pats > nfc

[jazz]

What, you don't like players in a "contract year"? Those guys are perfect.......if you slap the franchise tag on them. That way you actually get something out of them whether it's performance on the field for an extra year or some draft picks.
i wasn't saying that i'm not excited when a player gets into his contract year because either a.) he'll break out or b.) he'll get traded (and maybe land a player that pans out).

what i was complaining about was the type of attitude some players have where they play well their contract year, get the big deal, then settle back into underperforming again.

[bleuMadonna]

FIVE TURNOVERS...FIVE FUCKING TURNOVERS :shame:

I knew it was over when Adam missed the 33-yarder. :boo: :crying:

[breastnorton]

patriots did not play like the patriots of the past 4 years

[jazz]

it had to end someday, sweetie.

:console:

[mjk870621345]

:woo:

broncos are the bomb

:woo:

[Keith Moon]

FIVE TURNOVERS...FIVE FUCKING TURNOVERS :shame:

I knew it was over when Adam missed the 33-yarder. :boo: :crying:


- :console:...:sorry:, but...



























- :woo:

[bleuMadonna]

it had to end someday, sweetie.

:console:
I know...I'm still sad, though. I was really hoping they'd pull it off. I knew it would be a tough game. I've never seen so many fumbles :shame:

[mjk870621345]

:woo:

:bleu:... :hug2:

:woo:

[Heath]

About time NE doesn't win one

:jig:

[bleuMadonna]

:frown:

[MojoFearsSatan]

Heath tells the truth, sorry Bleu. It's like talking to Man Utd supporters who think this season is a washout cos they're 2nd place and 10 points adrift... not every year, dear, not every year.

[bleuMadonna]

Heath tells the truth, sorry Bleu. It's like talking to Man Utd supporters who think this season is a washout cos they're 2nd place and 10 points adrift... not every year, dear, not every year.

It's just so weird for us Pats fans to be on that end of things. We sucked for so many years :bleu:

[Mech]

yay, colts are losing.

[bleuMadonna]

:that:

[Agent]

lol@the colts hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahaa hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahah ahahahaha

SUCKASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

[bleuMadonna]

lol@the colts hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahaa hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahah ahahahaha

SUCKASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
:lmao: :woo: :woo:

[MojoFearsSatan]

You know what... I'll take the win any way it comes, that was great entertainment, that match.

OK, enough being humble. BRING IT ON, DENVER, YOU CUNTS! WE'LL 'AVE YER! JUST LOOK AT INDY! 14 AND 2? 14 AND 2? I PISS ALL OVER YOUR 14 AND 2 RECORD!

[bleuMadonna]

^^^ LOL!!!!! I'm with you. I want the Broncos out, since they beat my boys. Plummer sucks!

[jazz]

i was happy that the pats lost because they denied the dolphins an opportunity at a playoff spot this year, but other than that, i don't have any major hate towards their team...especially since i know :bleu: cheers for them.

[breastnorton]

I played a couple games in high school against Justin Gage. Just throwing that out there.

[bleuMadonna]

i was happy that the pats lost because they denied the dolphins an opportunity at a playoff spot this year, but other than that, i don't have any major hate towards their team...especially since i know :bleu: cheers for them.
Awwww, :smooch:...same here about the Dolphins. They are the only team in the division I would root for because of my sister and :jazz: I could never root for the Jets or the Bills. ... blech!

[MojoFearsSatan]

^^^ LOL!!!!! I'm with you. I want the Broncos out, since they beat my boys. Plummer sucks!

but he does have an awesome beard, :lol3:

[bleuMadonna]

but he does have an awesome beard, :lol3:
LOL!

[jazz]

Awwww, :smooch:...same here about the Dolphins. They are the only team in the division I would root for because of my sister and :jazz: I could never root for the Jets or the Bills. ... blech!
i feel the same way, although i only feel for :MAGO: when the jets do badly. but i hate their fans for the most part and just their whole organization. i think i hate the bills more though...

[bleuMadonna]

i feel the same way, although i only feel for :MAGO: when the jets do badly. but i hate their fans for the most part and just their whole organization. i think i hate the bills more though...
Indeed, I do feel bad for :MAGO:, but I just can't root for teams in NY...I'm not sure which of the two I despise more :bleu: ...Probably the Bills by a hair. I once went to a Pats game during a woeful 1-15 season and they were playing the Bills. It was pretty packed given that the Pats sucked that season, but it pissed me off that I had to sit next to seven crazies from Buffalo who were shirtless, painted blue and red all over and were so damn obnoxious. I root from my team on the road, but I don't act like I'm in my house. That's just lame.

[jazz]

Indeed, I do feel bad for :MAGO:, but I just can't root for teams in NY...I'm not sure which of the two I despise more :bleu: ...Probably the Bills by a hair. I once went to a Pats game during a woeful 1-15 season and they were playing the Bills. It was pretty packed given that the Pats sucked that season, but it pissed me off that I had to sit next to seven crazies from Buffalo who were shirtless, painted blue and red all over and were so damn obnoxious. I root from my team on the road, but I don't act like I'm in my house. That's just lame.
my dad always says: no tienen nada mejor que hacer alli. which translates to they have nothing better to do there. so true for the bills fans.

[bleuMadonna]

my dad always says: no tienen nada mejor que hacer alli. which translates to they have nothing better to do there. so true for the bills fans.
:nod:

[jazz]

all those people do there is work, go bowling, and attend freezing cold football games in the nude. :sarcasm:

[MojoFearsSatan]

I like Buffalo. They just seem to be clueless, it's quite endearing. They have all the players in place but they just don't seem to understand. Watching them on that final drive against the Pats earlier in the season, when they were down to 4th and 7 or something like that and wasted the clock so bad... it was really funny, I kinda felt sorry for the players, who looked visibly like they had no idea what the coach and co-ordinators were thinking.

[jazz]

I like Buffalo. They just seem to be clueless, it's quite endearing. They have all the players in place but they just don't seem to understand. Watching them on that final drive against the Pats earlier in the season, when they were down to 4th and 7 or something like that and wasted the clock so bad... it was really funny, I kinda felt sorry for the players, who looked visibly like they had no idea what the coach and co-ordinators were thinking.
the one thing i hate in particular about the bills is that they're such a lucky team. they get these types of breaks like i've never seen before. the only justice is that it backfires for them when they get to the big game.

i will admit, however, i really like their home uniform and their logo/team colors. sweet.

[Mech]

Anyone else sad the bears lost? They were doin so well this season. Well, atleast It was fun watching them NOT have a losing season.

[jazz]

i'm definitely going for seattle.

[bleuMadonna]

Anyone else sad the bears lost? They were doin so well this season. Well, atleast It was fun watching them NOT have a losing season.
No, I was rooting for Carolina :bleu: I still harbor dislike for da Bears because they crushed my hapless Pats in the Super Bowl many moons ago.

[jazz]

No, I was rooting for Carolina :bleu: I still harbor dislike for da Bears because they crushed my hapless Pats in the Super Bowl many moons ago.
ha. same thing with me and my grudge towards the redskins and the avalanche.

[mjk870621345]

:nelson: colts !!

i went to Invesco field today to see if i could grab tickets, but they were gone in less than 1 hour, so yeah i'll be watching the AFC game from home, but the broncos will beat some steelers' ass... :nod:

:woo:

[Agent]

lol@the colts and everyone who thought they were going to win it all this year.....hahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahaha

SUCKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

[jazz]

peyton blamed his o-line.

[bleuMadonna]

peyton blamed his o-line.
I just heard this on the radio on my way home from work. Not that I ever really liked him, because I didn't, but that's a fucking disgrace. There were a number of instances in which he had all day to throw, and he either underthrew or overthrew the receivers. You don't dis your teammates in public, no matter how bad they played. He just went down several notches in my book. He proved to be the fucking crybaby I always thought he was. Fucking pansy.

[jazz]

yeah, i saw the interview on nfl access. i thought it was pretty low of him to say that in public. if he wanted the team to trade for a new o-line that's fine, but you don't say that in a post-game interview.

[bleuMadonna]

yeah, i saw the interview on nfl access. i thought it was pretty low of him to say that in public. if he wanted the team to trade for a new o-line that's fine, but you don't say that in a post-game interview.
Exactly. That just shows no class whatsoever. He wasn't bitching when they got within three points. His o-line did all right during that drive after that fucking bogus overturned INT by Polamalu. Fucking classless asshole. I really hate him, now, more than ever.

[MojoFearsSatan]

the one thing i hate in particular about the bills is that they're such a lucky team. they get these types of breaks like i've never seen before. the only justice is that it backfires for them when they get to the big game.

i will admit, however, i really like their home uniform and their logo/team colors. sweet.

*watches clip from Jets game when they were down with 3 seconds left in the half and Terence McGee makes a 90-something yard return beating all 11 players, only to stumble and fall at the 3 yard line*

I was rooting for Bears cos my mate supports them. The three of us up here who follow American Football, one is a Giants fan, one is a Bears fan, and I am, of course, a Steeler fan. And if you'd told me a fortnight ago that come conference game my side was the only one still in it I'd have laughed. I didn't give them a chance.

But Peyton Manning. Quit fucking whining, why did you throw two bombs up to the endzone incomplete when you had 2nd and 2, 3rd and 2 with 2 timeouts left? I mean, it's not like a 47 yard field goal is a given for any team, let alone with that pressure! They'll probably paint Mike Vanderjagt as the villain of the piece for missing that, but really, if Peyton had his thinking cap on he could have got them a guaranteed 3 points and run the clock down to the point where he could get the touchdown or have a near guaranteed, far shorter field goal and not give the steelers a chance to get back...

[MAGO]

imo it wasn't the kickers fault...the play calling made no sense, especially when you needed 2 yards for a first :what:

[bleuMadonna]

^^^ For real. Dungy and Manning were outcoached.

[MAGO]

:shizzle:

[bleuMadonna]

And that idiot who ran back the Bus' fumble. He should have stayed to the outside. Getting tackled by the QB....:shame:

*edit* though, he was the one whose wife stabbed him, right? Yikes.

[MAGO]

well he's the one that had 3 stitches on his thigh(his wife stabbed him :what: ), that moron should've passed it to someone that could run....it was a great game!

[bleuMadonna]

well he's the one that had 3 stitches on his thigh(his wife stabbed him :what: ), that moron should've passed it to someone that could run....it was a great game!
It was...but man, I couldn't believe how mad I got after that INT was overturned. I realized just how much I can't stand Peyton and the Colts, lol :bleu: I was really pulling for Big Ben and the Steelers. I get so tired of everybody worshiping at the altar of Peyton Manning, the greatest quarterback, blah, blah, blah. He'll be great when and if he ever gets a ring. Until then, he can rack up all the TDs and yards he wants, but he remains overrated in my book. I mean, they have one of the supposed best offenses in the league, star running back, star receiver, great kicker and finally a decent workable defense. Other teams have won the Super Bowl with less.

[MAGO]

Peyton is this generations Marino...all the stats, no rings!

[bleuMadonna]

Indeed. Marino didn't always have the players around him, but yeah. They also relied sooo heavily on the passing game back then. If they'd had more of a running attack, who knows? Maybe they would have won it. Marino had one of the quickest releases I've ever seen, though.

[MAGO]

what would be funny is if Eli has horrible career #'s but ends up with 1 or more rings :lol:

[jazz]

Peyton is this generations Marino...all the stats, no rings!
like bleu said...the dolphins organization didn't surround marino with the defense, nor the star running back to help him win a super bowl. fucking cheap bastards.

[bleuMadonna]

what would be funny is if Eli has horrible career #'s but ends up with 1 or more rings :lol:
Hahaha! As long as he does it with some other team other than the Giants :bleu:

[bleuMadonna]

like bleu said...the dolphins organization didn't surround marino with the defense, nor the star running back to help him win a super bowl. fucking cheap bastards.
It amazed me how stupid they were with that. I mean, they could have had one or more titles if they'd built a better team.

[MAGO]

:werd: ...i would hate to have to hear my bro talk about his team for a year! :suicide:

[bleuMadonna]

:werd: ...i would hate to have to hear my bro talk about his team for a year! :suicide:
Yikes! That would suck!

[MAGO]

i hope the Jets give Mangini a shot at the head coaching position...anyone but Tice :ohnoes: ...we're in NY!..we're surrounded by water!

[jazz]

It amazed me how stupid they were with that. I mean, they could have had one or more titles if they'd built a better team.
simple. give a bunch of clueless fucks ownership over a football team.

[bleuMadonna]

simple. give a bunch of clueless fucks ownership over a football team.
Yep. Knuckleheads. It was so obvious, even at the time. And they just never did anything about it.

[bleuMadonna]

i hope the Jets give Mangini a shot at the head coaching position...anyone but Tice :ohnoes: ...we're in NY!..we're surrounded by water!
LMAO! Tice is just lame.

[breastnorton]

Steve Young and John Elway went ages without getting a ring, but who wouldn't consider them two of the best QB's of all time? And Marino never got a ring, yet he's still top 5 all time in terms of pure passing.

Manning, I think, has a problem winning big games. Stay with me a second here. Greg would know, he never beat Florida. Ever. Granted, the offense of the Vols at the time wasn't the best, at least not at receiver. He had a couple guys in his senior year who could catch the ball, but it was a running offense at the time. But Manning never beat the Gaytors, and the Vols weren't even close in most of those games. Manning's last game at Tennessee was against Nebraska in the Orange Bowl. The Vols were smoked and Manning had a rough game.

Then he goes to the Colts. We all know what's happened there. He's put up insane numbers in the regular season only to fold in the playoffs.

I'm not sure he'll ever win a Super Bowl or even make it to one (this was probably his best shot), but who here, honestly, would take Tom Brady over Peyton Manning?

[bleuMadonna]

Steve Young and John Elway went ages without getting a ring, but who wouldn't consider them two of the best QB's of all time? And Marino never got a ring, yet he's still top 5 all time in terms of pure passing.

Manning, I think, has a problem winning big games. Stay with me a second here. Greg would know, he never beat Florida. Ever. Granted, the offense of the Vols at the time wasn't the best, at least not at receiver. He had a couple guys in his senior year who could catch the ball, but it was a running offense at the time. But Manning never beat the Gaytors, and the Vols weren't even close in most of those games. Manning's last game at Tennessee was against Nebraska in the Orange Bowl. The Vols were smoked and Manning had a rough game.

Plus, those guys were real team leaders. Manning doesn't seem that way to me. Yesterday after the game was a perfect example. What's the first thing out of his mouth? He blames his o-line. Fucking lame. You don't do that, ever.

Then he goes to the Colts. We all know what's happened there. He's put up insane numbers in the regular season only to fold in the playoffs.

I'm not sure he'll ever win a Super Bowl or even make it to one (this was probably his best shot), but who here, honestly, would take Tom Brady over Peyton Manning?

This is precisely my argument over why I would pick Brady, and don't jump on me just because I'm a Pats fan. He did it with far less unproven talent surrounding him the first time around. I don't understand why so much emphasis is put on numbers. Everybody's more impressed with how pretty Manning looks throwing those deep passes than they are with actually winning a Super Bowl title, which the last time I checked, is the goal every year, right? Yes, Manning has got a ton of talent, but what he lacks is guts and if you don't have that, no way will you ever win. Elway, Young, and Marino had the killer instinct that Manning doesn't have. They never gave up. Manning's a head-case and he gets far too rattled and he can't rebound when the chips are down. Yesterday, the damn refs did all they could to give that game to him and he and the rest of them still couldn't get it done.

[breastnorton]

Actually, the Patriots are a far more talented team (in the three years that they won) then the Colts have ever been up until this year. Neither team made it to the AFC title game though.

The Patriots were a team built around giving up 14 or fewer points, they have and have had the defense to get it done and one of the best defensive minds coaching them. That's something the Colts have never had and their defense this year, while better, isn't good yet. Hell, the Rams put up quite a few points on them this year and the Rams suck.

It's hard to compare Manning and Brady really. Brady likes 10 yard passes and screens while Manning enjoys 20-30 yard passes over the middle and skinny posts. Manning calls all his own plays, Brady has relied on great play calling by great coaches (look at what those coaches are doing now, very good minds). It's a whole different game they play.

I'll put it this way, Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. I'm not saying Brady isn't good, but he's had a hell of a lot more talent around him on offense and defense than most QB's, Manning included.

[bleuMadonna]

Actually, the Patriots are a far more talented team (in the three years that they won) then the Colts have ever been up until this year. Neither team made it to the AFC title game though.

The Patriots were a team built around giving up 14 or fewer points, they have and have had the defense to get it done and one of the best defensive minds coaching them. That's something the Colts have never had and their defense this year, while better, isn't good yet. Hell, the Rams put up quite a few points on them this year and the Rams suck.

It's hard to compare Manning and Brady really. Brady likes 10 yard passes and screens while Manning enjoys 20-30 yard passes over the middle and skinny posts. Manning calls all his own plays, Brady has relied on great play calling by great coaches (look at what those coaches are doing now, very good minds). It's a whole different game they play.

I'll put it this way, Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. I'm not saying Brady isn't good, but he's had a hell of a lot more talent around him on offense and defense than most QB's, Manning included.
I do agree about the defense, but the offense had some receivers nobody had even heard of the first time around, and we had Antowain Smith at RB, but Dillon was a definite upgrade. And why didn't they move Harrison all over the field? He became predictable in that game. Again, bad play-calling. Maybe the Colts need to have a coordinator calling the offense.

Still, it's the complete package that makes a great quarterback. Young, Marino, Elway, and Brady have leadership qualities that Manning seems to lack. A perfect example was Manning's throwing his o-line under the bus in the postgame conference yesterday. That was lame. I heard that shit on the radio on the way home and it pissed me off and took away what respect, if any, I had for him. Yeah, Marino used to whine a little, too, but he was more complaining about personnel in general.

Brady isn't pretty, but he gets it done, and I'd take that over Manning and his stats any day.

[breastnorton]

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … let's just say we had some problems with protection."

Is that all he said? If so, he could have been quite a bit more harsh and still been ok in my book.

Did you hear Lance Armstrong talking about his team after Stage 8 in this past year's Tour de France? Probably not, but I'll summarize "these guys sucked today on a stage that featured some very short small climbs and there's no way we win in the mountains if they can't ride better". It was a bit more harsh than that but they pulled through for the guy and in the first mountain stage tore everyone else apart and Lance won the Tour on that stage alone.

Manning's line was pathetic yesterday, his comments weren't out of line in my opinion. It's a way of saying, "ok, next year you need to improve a lot or you won't be here". Manning had very little time all game, and that was with no blitz or one guy on a dog for a lot of it. If an oline can't handle 5 rushers, then they suck and shouldn't have their feelings hurt if someone, even their own QB, tells them so.

[MojoFearsSatan]

It was...but man, I couldn't believe how mad I got after that INT was overturned. I realized just how much I can't stand Peyton and the Colts, lol :bleu: I was really pulling for Big Ben and the Steelers. I get so tired of everybody worshiping at the altar of Peyton Manning, the greatest quarterback, blah, blah, blah. He'll be great when and if he ever gets a ring. Until then, he can rack up all the TDs and yards he wants, but he remains overrated in my book. I mean, they have one of the supposed best offenses in the league, star running back, star receiver, great kicker and finally a decent workable defense. Other teams have won the Super Bowl with less.

I hate the Colts enough that I was pulling for San Diego in the Chargers-Colts match even though them winning would potentially jeopardise Pittsburgh's playoff chances. Oh, that and my Giants-loving mate is always going on about the Manning hierarchy and how incredible the Colts team is and how they would probably trounce even a team comprising the Bengals offense and the Bears defense.

[bleuMadonna]

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … let's just say we had some problems with protection."

Is that all he said? If so, he could have been quite a bit more harsh and still been ok in my book.

Did you hear Lance Armstrong talking about his team after Stage 8 in this past year's Tour de France? Probably not, but I'll summarize "these guys sucked today on a stage that featured some very short small climbs and there's no way we win in the mountains if they can't ride better". It was a bit more harsh than that but they pulled through for the guy and in the first mountain stage tore everyone else apart and Lance won the Tour on that stage alone.

Manning's line was pathetic yesterday, his comments weren't out of line in my opinion. It's a way of saying, "ok, next year you need to improve a lot or you won't be here". Manning had very little time all game, and that was with no blitz or one guy on a dog for a lot of it. If an oline can't handle 5 rushers, then they suck and shouldn't have their feelings hurt if someone, even their own QB, tells them so.
I think they were out of line, given that the season was now OVER and nothing good was going to come out of that except for Manning trying to cover his ass. Lance Armstrong still had a race to run, but I still think it's classless to dis the team in public. Take it up in the locker room, or wherever the cyclists finish up.

And it wasn't all the o-line's fault. I don't care how bad they played, you don't dis your team in public like that, after they just lost. You want to take that up with management about getting better personnel next year, fine, but that type of talk does nothing to engender loyalty from your teammates. It's a slap in the face, and those guys won't like it and they will file that away. It does nothing to solidify the team.

And if he was so "trying to be a good teammate," then he shouldn't have singled anyone out and just said they all played poorly and leave it at that. I didn't exactly hear him say he sucked, but then, again, maybe he did say it and they didn't play that on the radio. There were a number of occasions when he DID have time to make a play and he fucked up. And a couple of those sacks could have been avoided. He's always looking for the big play, rather than trying to move the ball down the field.

[bleuMadonna]

I hate the Colts enough that I was pulling for San Diego in the Chargers-Colts match even though them winning would potentially jeopardise Pittsburgh's playoff chances. Oh, that and my Giants-loving mate is always going on about the Manning hierarchy and how incredible the Colts team is and how they would probably trounce even a team comprising the Bengals offense and the Bears defense.
LOL!

[breastnorton]

I think pointing out faults in public is a way to strengthen your team. I would assume half or more of that line is under contract for next year, so a little criticism now should help them prepare for next year. If a guy can't take those comments as constructive criticism, I wouldn't want him on my team.

I don't think there are very many guys in the NFL who will just let a DE blindside Manning next year just because of those comments. O linemen make money by protecting the QB, and if they let in a ton of sacks, they won't earn a good contract next time out.

But I still don't think "we had some problems with protection" isn't that bad a comment, really. Sure it's pointing out the obvious but I don't think he placed the loss entirely on the line.

Lance did mention in that same interview that he and the team would need to have a long talk over dinner that night and that things would have to change. But he did far worse than Manning. Then again, most of Lance's ex teammates regard him as a huge jackass concerned only with winning. But I like Lance and his cocky attitude.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Then again, most of Lance's ex teammates regard him as a huge jackass concerned only with winning

That's kinda how I regard Peyton Manning. Only Lance Armstrong was actually good at winning things that mattered.

[bleuMadonna]

I think pointing out faults in public is a way to strengthen your team. I would assume half or more of that line is under contract for next year, so a little criticism now should help them prepare for next year. If a guy can't take those comments as constructive criticism, I wouldn't want him on my team.

I don't think there are very many guys in the NFL who will just let a DE blindside Manning next year just because of those comments. O linemen make money by protecting the QB, and if they let in a ton of sacks, they won't earn a good contract next time out.

But I still don't think "we had some problems with protection" isn't that bad a comment, really. Sure it's pointing out the obvious but I don't think he placed the loss entirely on the line.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree :bleu: I'm not saying that they won't want to play for Manning, but that shit does stick inside your head. I'm pretty sure they know they sucked. I just don't think they needed to have salt rubbed in the wound publicly by a player who didn't exactly have his best game, either.

Then again, most of Lance's ex teammates regard him as a huge jackass concerned only with winning. But I like Lance and his cocky attitude.

LOL!

[bleuMadonna]

That's kinda how I regard Peyton Manning. Only Lance Armstrong was actually good at winning things that mattered.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh SNAP!

[breastnorton]

That's kinda how I regard Peyton Manning. Only Lance Armstrong was actually good at winning things that mattered.Well, Lance is widely regarded by just about everyone as a complete ass (not as much as Richard Virenque mind you) but everything I've ever heard about Manning is that he's a nice guy.

Let's put it this way, Lance is very good and he would tell you he's very good and he would do things for no other reason than to embarass you while beating you (I'm thinking of the later stage in the 2004 Tour when he rode Simeoni down by himself just to ruin Simeoni's chance at a stage win), while Peyton does not.

I think people dislike Peyton because ESPN sucks him off constantly.

[MojoFearsSatan]

I don't have ESPN. I still hate Peyton Manning. He comes across as obnoxious, cocky, and he just annoys me with all his "retarded dance" play-calling.

[MAGO]

so you don't like his Master Card commercials? :what:

[MojoFearsSatan]

We don't have those either. We have them with people that more than about 2% of the british public would recognise.

[breastnorton]

You would hate 90% of American athletes in all sports if Peyton is cocky.

[bleuMadonna]

I think people dislike Peyton because ESPN sucks him off constantly.

I don't have ESPN, but the rest of the free TV network guys that I have seen suck off him, too, and yeah, it's annoying because he still hasn't won anything. I'd give the guy his due if he would win a big game, but he hasn't yet.

[KenKill75]

Im just glad bleu's team lost.

[MojoFearsSatan]

You would hate 90% of American athletes in all sports if Peyton is cocky.

In Britain it's pretty par for the course to hate most American sportsmen, yea. But since I have no interest in baseball or hockey, but a lot of interest in American Football, I go by what I see. There's a lot of arrogant bastards, some of them justified, just like there are in any sport. But the TV stations that carry the NFL over here suck Peyton off too, its like watching the soccer; somebody does a trick, and it's "good touch by A N Other". Then Zinedine Zidane does it and it's "SUBLIME, INCREDIBLE, BEAUTIFUL SILKY SKILL BY ZIDANE!"... I get the same impression with Peyton Manning. And I don't like his face either.

[bleuMadonna]

Im just glad bleu's team lost.
:erm: *sticks tongue out at Ken*

[KenKill75]

:erm: *sticks tongue out at Ken*

*Licks bleu's tongue* :yummy2:

[Keith Moon]

:erm: *sticks tongue out at Ken*


- :agape:...Dats hawt.

[breastnorton]

In Britain it's pretty par for the course to hate most American sportsmen, yea. But since I have no interest in baseball or hockey, but a lot of interest in American Football, I go by what I see. There's a lot of arrogant bastards, some of them justified, just like there are in any sport. But the TV stations that carry the NFL over here suck Peyton off too, its like watching the soccer; somebody does a trick, and it's "good touch by A N Other". Then Zinedine Zidane does it and it's "SUBLIME, INCREDIBLE, BEAUTIFUL SILKY SKILL BY ZIDANE!"... I get the same impression with Peyton Manning. And I don't like his face either.See that I can understand. The national media here picks a few guys they like and then can't shut up about them. It's the same with Michael Vick who has done a lot less than Manning even.

I have no emotional ties to any NFL team or any player either, but I do respect Manning. He brought a lot of attention and good talent to the University of Tennessee while he was there, and it paid off nicely.

By the way, do you watch much college football over there? Do they even show it?

[bleuMadonna]

*Licks bleu's tongue* :yummy2:
Hehehe, I knew you would say that :wink:

:beat:

[MojoFearsSatan]

They only show it on NASN, which we don't subscribe to. I can only catch whatever brief clips they put on "Endzone", which is a weekly roundup show they have on Sky Sports 3; they have 2 games on Sky Sports X on Sunday nights, but I don't have Sky at my house at uni, only at my holiday address. We get Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football on Channel 5 during the regular season, and highlights of the playoffs on ITV, and all three (ITV, Channel 5 and Sky Sports) run the superbowl. Last year we had it on in the bar in the hall, and all these people came along to see it who had no idea about the game; the bar was packed at kickoff, by the end there was me and my mate and 2 other people in there. Mind you, it was like, 4am and our lectures started the next day.

[breastnorton]

Yeah. Same type of stuff here in America. For some reason everyone watches the SuperBowl. People who don't even know who's playing will watch.

It turns into this giant clusterfuck of an entertainment show and less of a football game. Sadly, hardly anyone watches the World Cup unless the US is playing. And I'd love to see just how many people watch the weekly UEFA games here, it can't be very many.

[bleuMadonna]

It turns into this giant clusterfuck of an entertainment show and less of a football game.
For real. It's gotten way out of hand. I never watch any of it until the game starts. Usually I'm working anyway, but the last few years, I got it off because my team was in it, well, except for last year because the Eagles were in it and no way could I have gotten that off with all the extra work at the paper.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Yeah half the poeple who were in the bar for the Superbowl last year (and I'm afraid to say most of the girls) were there to see McCartney. There were a few guys trying to be the big shots and patronise those asking what was going on, but I had to bail them out on what a "play clock" was.

[Modus Ponens]

but who here, honestly, would take Tom Brady over Peyton Manning?

Me. In a heartbeat. All Tom Brady does is win games. He's the brighest QB in the NFL and the best there is in big games.

[bleuMadonna]

LOL! I know. I'm in the minority among my female friends. Most of them have no interest in football.

[Modus Ponens]

I think pointing out faults in public is a way to strengthen your team. I would assume half or more of that line is under contract for next year, so a little criticism now should help them prepare for next year. If a guy can't take those comments as constructive criticism, I wouldn't want him on my team.

As the QB and leader of that team that loss falls on his shoulders. Any great QB would have shouldered the blame for that loss. Offering that tidbit up as an excuse was just horrible leadership.

[breastnorton]

As the QB and leader of that team that loss falls on his shoulders. Any great QB would have shouldered the blame for that loss. Offering that tidbit up as an excuse was just horrible leadership.But see I don't see that as an excuse even. And let's be honest, that was one of the worst games protection wise that's been played in a while. Manning was under pressure then entire game. You can't stay in the pocket and make great passes when you can't even complete a five step drop.

I'll agree that the QB is the leader of the team, but giving 21 points as early as they did didn't help out either. 21 points is too many in the playoffs, Manning had nothing to do with that.

[Modus Ponens]

i'm definitely going for seattle.

Die. We left 17 points on the field. Losing that game the way we did kills me. Missed chip-shot FG. Bogus offensive PI call on Farris that would have been a TD. Rogers missing a certain pick-six on the 'Hawks first TD drive. This one stings. We had all the momentum after the "MVP" got KTFO and if Rogers makes that pick, there's no doubt in my mind that we go on to win handily. Unfortunately, the injuries finally caught up to us. Between Portis being banged up, and our depleted secondary, my boys just didn't have the horses to finish the job. I will say this.........I am psyched about next year. Gibbs is building a champion and restoring this franchise for the long haul.

HTTR

Edit: I don't care what kind of numbers Alexander puts up in the regular season, he's one of the softest players in the NFL. There's a reason the Seahags were trying to dump him on the Skins before we traded for Portis.

[MojoFearsSatan]

Yea, I've been very impressed by Skins over the last few weeks, though to be really successful I think they'll need more offense; they only have two receiving threats, really, Cooley and Moss, plus Portis... mind you, Carolina have shown us just how far a team can go with just ONE offensive weapon.