The Official NFL Thread..

[DJSteel]

lol, I would love to have vilma, but he'd have the same problem with us, he'd be playing OLB.

Bears want to trade to the middle of the round and draft one of those DE's i think. If we don't move up, i think we will get that Penn St. LB with our first pick (31st overall or so).

Poluszney will be gone when the Bears draft...unless they get lucky

[MojoFearsSatan]

well Faneca leaving will kill Parker... but opening it up 3 - 4 wrs would be good for ..although what the hell do they do with Heath Miller

I'm not so sure if the 3-4WR sets would kill Parker, he certainly wouldn't have as much fantasy value, but he's quick enough to utilise on screens and as a receiver out of the backfield. Faneca leaving will obviously be a big problem, but meh. Heath Miller can always get by, play with a single back system with the 3 WRs, Miller and Parker, Miller's a run-blocking asset, though not so much as Kreider I guess.

[MAGO]

yeah the Bears will have to move up if they want that Lb from Penn State...

[dionysusolympus]

stfu, hoggface.

[MAGO]

:spam:

[dionysusolympus]

Brittle McNabb has Eagles eyeing QB of future in draft (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10149531)

PHILADELPHIA -- Donovan McNabb isn't ready to trade in his helmet for broadcasting headphones. He's only 30 years old, has played in five Pro Bowls in eight seasons and led the Philadelphia Eagles to one Super Bowl appearance.

Still, it might be time the Eagles consider life after McNabb, especially since the quarterback has been prone to injury. McNabb has finished the regular season on the sidelines three times in four years, including a torn knee ligament in Week 11 last year. A sports hernia forced McNabb to miss the final seven games in 2005 and he sat out the last six games with a broken ankle in 2002 before returning for the playoffs.

Though the Eagles have more prominent needs on defense, it wouldn't be a complete surprise if the team selected a quarterback for the future in this weekend's NFL Draft.

"If there's a quarterback you think is a franchise guy, common sense tells you to think about it," general manager Tom Heckert said. "But where we're picking, the chance of somebody falling that far (is slim)."

The Eagles have the 26th pick in the first round. JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn will be long gone by then, and none of the other quarterbacks coming out are considered first-round prospects.

Trent Edwards (Stanford), Kevin Kolb (Houston), Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith (Ohio State), Drew Stanton (Michigan State), Isaiah Stanback (Washington) and John Beck (Brigham Young) each are projected to be drafted between the second and fourth rounds.

"I don't think we would take a guy unless we thought he had a chance to be a really good player," Heckert said. "Just to take a guy as a backup, we wouldn't do that. If we took a guy in the next couple years, it would probably be a guy we feel really good about."

The Eagles don't have a fourth-round pick this season because they traded it to New Orleans for wide receiver Donte' Stallworth last summer. However, it's possible they could trade down from the 26th spot and add a later pick that could be used on a quarterback.

Not all franchise quarterbacks are early-round choices. New England took Tom Brady in the sixth round in 2000. San Francisco drafted Joe Montana in the third round in 1979. Brady already has won three Super Bowls and Montana won four during his Hall of Fame career.

The Eagles are confident McNabb will return healthy from his knee injury and that A.J. Feeley is a capable backup. They also have veteran Kelly Holcomb on the roster. But McNabb won't play forever. So, adding a young quarterback that can be groomed as his eventual successor makes sense.

"Even last year, he was playing great until he got hurt," Heckert said of McNabb. "He's got to stay healthy, but we're not concerned about his injuries. It's easy to sit here and say that the next four years, he's going to be a Pro Bowl player. I think talentwise, no doubt he's still a heck of a player."

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The idea of searching for McNabb's heir isn't bad but not this year's draft in my opinion. If Reid was the gambler, he should wait for JaMarcus Russell to tank for the Raiders and get him off fairly cheap.

[DJSteel]

My first round...

http://www.mymockdraft.com/MyDraft/DJSteelers.aspx

[paniro777]

Poluszney will be gone when the Bears draft...unless they get lucky

why do you say that? Every time i've heard him mentioned i hear he'll be there end of the first round, and even have heard early 2nd for him.

[DJSteel]

if he isn't going to the steelers he'll be picked up by the Pats before he gets to the Bears...

[MAGO]

the Vilma getting traded on Draft day rumor has picked up steam....i really hate to see him go, but he's not productive in the 3-4 :sad2: ...i wonder where he'll end up :ohnoes: ..hopefully the NFC...

[paniro777]

the Vilma getting traded on Draft day rumor has picked up steam....i really hate to see him go, but he's not productive in the 3-4 :sad2: ...i wonder where he'll end up :ohnoes: ..hopefully the NFC...

hopefully to the AFC cause Urlacher doesn't need any competition at the MLB spot in the NFC lol. I think once vilma goes to MLB he's gonna be very good.

I now really want the bears to do whatever it takes to get the #2 pick to get calvin johnson. Trade briggs to redskins, that will get us to #6. Then take that #6, and our #31 and 34 picks to move up to #2 if possible, and take johnson.

[MAGO]

won't happen...the reason they didn't trade Briggs to the Redskins was because they didn't want to get stuck with the 6th pick and end up paying someone a huge signing bonus, which i guess is required for a 6th pick :shrug: ...

[DJSteel]

get ready for the 75th alternate uniforms...

[DJSteel]

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[MAGO]

:nanner9:

[DJSteel]

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Steelers

[MojoFearsSatan]

Nothing against the gold-trim shirts. Lots against the gold helmets.

[dionysusolympus]

DJ, the Iggles 75th Anniversary colors are the same as the present Chargers colors. and I might get the Westbrook or Dawkins jersey...maybe.

[DJSteel]

DJ, the Iggles 75th Anniversary colors are the same as the present Chargers colors. and I might get the Westbrook or Dawkins jersey...maybe.

now that is fuckin gay...

[dionysusolympus]

now that is fuckin gay...

more like :ubergay:.

[MAGO]

:dio:

[dionysusolympus]

the Jetsths 75th Anniversary uniform will be in all pink. :yes:

[MAGO]

Gang Green 4 LIFE!

[dionysusolympus]

More like Cunt Pink 4 Life! :clap2:

[MAGO]

:hailo:

[paniro777]

won't happen...the reason they didn't trade Briggs to the Redskins was because they didn't want to get stuck with the 6th pick and end up paying someone a huge signing bonus, which i guess is required for a 6th pick :shrug: ...

that trade has never been dead really. You're right about us not wanting to be stuck at 6. But the bears are tryin to get that 6 pick, and then trade that to say the bills for the #12 pick and more. So the bills can come up get adrian peterson before the vikings do. Then we go back to 12 where the money is more in our range, and we can get a pretty good DE, LB, S, WR.

I think this is definetely a possibility.

[MAGO]

that would work...

[paniro777]

that would work...

i hope. I have a lot of confidence in the bears and their drafting. They've done very well for the most part. They seem to find some pretty good talent in teh later rounds (3-6).

[DJSteel]

lmao @ the Texans.. they are going to trade down...

[MAGO]

yeah, this is the first year in a very long time where i go into draft day feeling confident that the one's in charge know what they're doing when it comes down to making the right picks...

[MAGO]

lmao @ the Texans.. they are going to trade down...

might as well stock up with picks and fill up the holes they have, which is basically the whole team :owndance:

[DJSteel]

Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:45:45 -0700
Neil Stratton, of Inside the League, reports that the Houston Texans, as rumored previously, will swap first-round draft picks with the Denver Broncos in this year's NFL Draft Friday, April 27, in exchange for Denver's second-round pick, No. 56 overall. With the Texans' first- and second-round picks, the team is considering four players: Utah FS Eric Weddle, Ohio State WR Anthony Gonzalez, USC WR Dwayne Jarrett and Florida S Reggie Nelson.


yeah..but to not wait and see who might fall through the cracks to them might be the dumbest move...

[MAGO]

well i'm sure they'll wait til then before accepting the trade, then again, we are talking about the Texans! :what: ...where's Raf when you need him?!

[DJSteel]

lmao.. even he couldn't explain this debacle.

[MAGO]

:lol: ...the Texans should just leave the NFL and join the CFL....

[dionysusolympus]

wow.

the entire colts team has been disbanded. another one has just gone...to the saints.

[DJSteel]

Jason David is better than Fred Thomas...but he'll still get burned...

[MAGO]

:ohnoes:

[Bruce]

wow.

the entire colts team has been disbanded. another one has just gone...to the saints.

:nanner24:

[jazz]

they wasted no time. :five:

[Modus Ponens]

Fuck the Dolphins. Fuck them right in their tiny little ear holes. Dream scenario happens for the Skins.......Peterson AND Quinn both fall to #6 assuring us of being able to trade back with the Fins and they fuck us by taking Ginn instead. Damn them. So instead of addressing our DL, we end up taking Landry. Sure, we'll have the best safety duo in the NFL but it won't matter when teams can run up and down the field on us.

[jazz]

Fuck the Dolphins. Fuck them right in their tiny little ear holes. Dream scenario happens for the Skins.......Peterson AND Quinn both fall to #6 assuring us of being able to trade back with the Fins and they fuck us by taking Ginn instead. Damn them. So instead of addressing our DL, we end up taking Landry. Sure, we'll have the best safety duo in the NFL but it won't matter when teams can run up and down the field on us.
that's what you get for beating us in super bowl XVII. :neener:

i'm happy with the dolphin picks. :clap:

btw, the patriots look intimidating. at least on paper. :nailbite:

[Agent]

texans>raiders.

[MojoFearsSatan]

woohoo, on day 2 we traded up to get a punter!?

[DJSteel]

woohoo, on day 2 we traded up to get a punter!?

believe me.. it was worth it.. Gardocki is pretty much done in Pittsburgh..

http://www.baylortv.com/streaming/000641/300kbps_ref.mov

[DJSteel]

Quinn's fate is sealed with the Browns...

[dionysusolympus]

Quinn's fate is sealed with the Browns...

agreed.

I have no idea why the Iggles picked up Kolb. :shrug2:

[paniro777]

Poluszney will be gone when the Bears draft...unless they get lucky

told you he'd be there when we picked, lol. I was a little surprised we didn't draft him, but fine with the TE from miami as our pick.

[DJSteel]

agreed.

I have no idea why the Iggles picked up Kolb. :shrug2:

the Eagles had the worst draft.. Miami was next...

[DJSteel]

told you he'd be there when we picked, lol. I was a little surprised we didn't draft him, but fine with the TE from miami as our pick.

the Brady Quinn drop had a lot to do with that...

[Pops]

Fuck the Dolphins. Fuck them right in their tiny little ear holes. Dream scenario happens for the Skins.......Peterson AND Quinn both fall to #6 assuring us of being able to trade back with the Fins and they fuck us by taking Ginn instead. Damn them. So instead of addressing our DL, we end up taking Landry. Sure, we'll have the best safety duo in the NFL but it won't matter when teams can run up and down the field on us.

Modus Ponens - I love what the Skins did with their number 1 pick. Considering we were ranked last in pass defense, this allows them to have a very, very good pass defense and with the bringing aboard of London Fletcher, this pick is an extreme positive. You gotta remember that when teams are throwing the ball at will against your defense, it allows the run to be much more productive. Now that they have 2 outstanding guys in the back field, the run will be easier to focus on for the defensive line.
The Skins are gonna be just fine. :smile2:

[DJSteel]

Modus Ponens - I love what the Skins did with their number 1 pick. Considering we were ranked last in pass defense, this allows them to have a very, very good pass defense and with the bringing aboard of London Fletcher, this pick is an extreme positive. You gotta remember that when teams are throwing the ball at will against your defense, it allows the run to be much more productive. Now that they have 2 outstanding guys in the back field, the run will be easier to focus on for the defensive line.
The Skins are gonna be just fine. :smile2:

Landry was not a bad pick..but you needed to address your pass rush.. your secondary will still suck with Deion Sanders back there if you can't get to the QB..

[Modus Ponens]

Modus Ponens - I love what the Skins did with their number 1 pick. Considering we were ranked last in pass defense, this allows them to have a very, very good pass defense and with the bringing aboard of London Fletcher, this pick is an extreme positive. You gotta remember that when teams are throwing the ball at will against your defense, it allows the run to be much more productive. Now that they have 2 outstanding guys in the back field, the run will be easier to focus on for the defensive line.
The Skins are gonna be just fine. :smile2:

The reason teams were able to throw at will on us is because we were always in 3rd and short situations on defense. Williams would send the house and our blitzes would get picked up because noone on our interior DL demanded double teaming. I don't care how good our secondary is we're going to get picked apart when teams have 7 seconds to throw on us. A stud DT would change that immediately. And Fletcher is only going to be as effective as the interior DL allows him to be. Linebackers, especially in a Gregg Williams defense, need to be able to run free. Without a true 2 Gap DT, Fletcher is going to be forced to shed blocks in order to make plays. That's the difference between him making a tackle in the gap for no gain, or a loss and making a tackle in the 2nd level for a 4 yard gain. We did absolutely nothing to address this situation and I'm sick over it.

[paniro777]

the Brady Quinn drop had a lot to do with that...

how in the world is that so? So if quinn didn't drop and was taken 3rd Poluz would have been drafted way earlier? I don't see the connection.

He was gonna be there late in the first round regardless unless someone jumped and took him ahead of the other LBs that were drafted ahead of him. He was the 3rd or 4th LB on many peoples boards from what i've seen.

[paniro777]

Landry was not a bad pick..but you needed to address your pass rush.. your secondary will still suck with Deion Sanders back there if you can't get to the QB..

I agree. The skins were in the bottom 5 in sacks I think. If you don't get pressure on the QB, it doesn't matter how good the CBs are, eventually he'll find someone to throw it too. I thought they would take a pass rusher.

[Pops]

Your just jealous. :ohyou:

We are most definitely going to be a team difficult to deal with this year. I gots a feeling that oh Danny boy is loosening his reigns on Gibbs and allowing him to select who he (Gibbs) wants instead of who Danny wants from this point on, I am watchign another dynasty being built and am loving it.

BTW - I gots an inside scoop on Gibbs and he is going no where anytime soon. :winklove:

[Buddy Knox]

Man I'm tired of thinking your bumass Skins are gonna be good and then watching them self destruct lol. It's all about those Colts.

[DJSteel]

how in the world is that so? So if quinn didn't drop and was taken 3rd Poluz would have been drafted way earlier? I don't see the connection.

He was gonna be there late in the first round regardless unless someone jumped and took him ahead of the other LBs that were drafted ahead of him. He was the 3rd or 4th LB on many peoples boards from what i've seen.

that factored in with Ted Ginn going so high(dumb pick). I'm actually surprised the Steelers were so high on their pick... I figured they'd stay away from Fla St, Miami, Florida players since most of them are head cases... I'm sort of surprised that they didn't shop Briggs around for other deals... now they might have to eat the contract... or at least some of it..

[paniro777]

We have a rookie LB from last year that was hurt and didn't play at all. There high expectations for him this year. And our 2nd pick was a LB that is in the same mold as Briggs.

Garrett Wolfe - i'm quite happy we got him, he could do some amazing things.

[MojoFearsSatan]

I'm aware Gardocki is about done (hell, he's been there since the dawn of time), but it just strikes me as odd to trade up for a punter, was it really that likely that he would go in the 5-10 picks we moved up? I mean, I don't know because once you get past the first couple rounds we know nothing in Europe about prospects, and I missed the draft cos it doesn't get coverage over here.

[DJSteel]

I'm aware Gardocki is about done (hell, he's been there since the dawn of time), but it just strikes me as odd to trade up for a punter, was it really that likely that he would go in the 5-10 picks we moved up? I mean, I don't know because once you get past the first couple rounds we know nothing in Europe about prospects, and I missed the draft cos it doesn't get coverage over here.


did you see the video in the post?? it's the punter..

[EtchedInCold]

The Lions drafted Drew Stanton?


:shame:

Good thing my team's the Jags.

[MojoFearsSatan]

'fraid not, if you could find a youtube link to it or something thaat'd be cool cos the UniVis computers don't let you download movies.

[Da Rafsta]

363 days till the draft.....:frown2:

[DJSteel]

Raf.. your boys draft looked thin...

[DJSteel]

'fraid not, if you could find a youtube link to it or something thaat'd be cool cos the UniVis computers don't let you download movies.

the video is of the punter we drafted..punted 60 yds, 4.5 sec hangtime, then making the tackle...it's pretty good..

[Da Rafsta]

Raf.. your boys draft looked thin...
yeah, very thin. Just 363 days left fortunately till the 2008 draft.

Thing is, we didn't get much starters in the draft. IMO, our guys look like back ups moreso than anything, 'cept for a couple or so.

[dionysusolympus]

texans - detroit. super bowl.

[DJSteel]

yeah, very thin. Just 363 days left fortunately till the 2008 draft.

Thing is, we didn't get much starters in the draft. IMO, our guys look like back ups moreso than anything, 'cept for a couple or so.

Hey Alan Faneca and Troy Polamalu are free agents next year.. the Steelers can probably sign one of them..

[Da Rafsta]

Texans won't sign any big name free agents...it's just not their style.

[DJSteel]

you gotta start somewhere...

[paniro777]

Hey Alan Faneca and Troy Polamalu are free agents next year.. the Steelers can probably sign one of them..

troy would be a perfect fit for us!!!!!!!!

[DJSteel]

Kiper's Draft Grades

NEW YORK -- What teams made the trip to New York City worth their while? What teams have offseason needs that still need to be addressed? Now that the 2007 NFL draft is over, it's time to evaluate what each team accomplished, from picks to trades, the past two days.
Arizona Cardinals: GRADE: B-
Once Joe Thomas was gone, the Cardinals had to make a decision whether to take Adrian Peterson or Levi Brown. Peterson would have been a luxury pick, which they couldn't afford to do, and Brown fills a hole. Arizona must improve its offensive line. There were quite a few teams that didn't think there was a lot that separated Brown from Thomas. Brown has a nasty streak and can play either tackle position. For the second straight year, Arizona took an underachieving defensive tackle from Michigan. Alan Branch has great physical skills but was an underachiever. He will either be a boom or a bust. Linebacker Buster Davis was a decent third-round pick, and Steve Breaston was a really nice choice in the fifth round because of his return skills and should pay dividends in the return game. Tight end Ben Patrick is a potential steal in the seventh round. He needs to work on his concentration and catching the ball, but Patrick could have gone in the third round and no one would have argued.

Atlanta Falcons: GRADE: B
Defensive end Jamaal Anderson was really the only option with Joe Thomas and Levi Brown gone. Plus, Anderson fills a need on defense. Justin Blalock is a big body up front and can play either guard or tackle. Cornerback Chris Houston would have been a risky pick in the in first round, but he presents good value in the second round. WR Laurent Robinson has a lot of talent, but is raw and needs to show he can make the tough catch in traffic. I thought taking him in the third round was a little high, but he does have ability. I really liked what Atlanta did Sunday. Stephen Nicholas has a very good shot to be a productive linebacker. I also liked the pick of TE Martrez Milner in the fourth round. He needs to work on his pass-catching skills, but he is a very good blocker. David Irons, at best, is a reserve defensive back; center Doug Datish could have gone in the third round, and he will provide some versatility, and Daren Stone is a developmental safety and special-teams player.

Baltimore Ravens: GRADE: B
Ben Grubbs is a great pick and pure guard. Yamon Figurs has speed to burn and will be the returner the Ravens need with B.J. Sams coming off an injury and being a free agent after 2007. Grubbs will start right away, and Marshal Yanda possibly also could start at guard or right tackle. Antwan Barnes is a typical hybrid combination between a defensive end and outside linebacker. Le'Ron McClain was the best pure fullback in the draft. Not only does he fill a need, but he could start since the Ravens lost Ovie Mughelli in free agency. This was a good organization for Troy Smith to go to as a developmental quarterback. He also could push Kyle Boller, who will be a free agent after 2007. Prescott Burgess had a nice career at Michigan, and getting him in the sixth round is a nice move because Burgess should have a solid NFL career.

Buffalo Bills: GRADE: B
The Bills had no choice but to go after Marshawn Lynch with the loss of Willis McGahee. Paul Posluszny could be a middle linebacker or OLB, making up for the loss of London Fletcher. Running back Dwayne Wright was a very good fourth-round pick if he can stay healthy. Down the road, Trent Edwards could give J.P. Losman some competition. And if Edwards develops in two or three years, the Bills could trade him, similar to what Atlanta did with Matt Schaub. John Wendling is a very athletic safety and was a good sixth-round pick. Derek Schouman is a pass-catching tight end with limited blocking skills.

Carolina Panthers: GRADE: B
I'm not enamored with linebacker Jon Beason, but he has the ability to be a team leader because he has a great attitude. I do like the fact that Carolina traded down to get Beason even though the Panthers were very high on him. The Panthers did a good job in the second round, getting WR Dwayne Jarrett and center Ryan Kalil. I thought Georgia defensive end Charles Johnson was a steal in the third round. Ryne Robinson was one of the better returners in the draft; Dante Rosario is a backup tight end; Tim Shaw, at worst, is a backup linebacker, and C.J. Wilson could be a decent backup cornerback.

Chicago Bears: GRADE: B
The Bears didn't expect Greg Olsen to be available that late in the first round; he'll give Rex Grossman a solid pass-catching tight end. Defensive end Dan Bazuin is perfect for the Bears' scheme. Garrett Wolfe showed he could catch the ball during his workouts and has the potential to be a good returner even though he wasn't asked to return kicks in college. Wolfe will be a good change-of-pace running back and potentially could be a very valuable part of this organization. Michael Okwo is undersized for a linebacker, but he runs well and is a smart player. In the fourth round, Chicago got really good value in Josh Beekman. He can play center but will be a guard on this offensive line. Kevin Payne is a versatile safety who makes plays and was a good fifth-round pick; Corey Graham will fight for a roster spot at cornerback and on special teams. Cornerback Trumaine McBride is a marginal prospect.

Cincinnati Bengals: GRADE: C+
Picking Michigan CB Leon Hall without having to trade up to get him turned out to be very good value for the Bengals. Running back Kenny Irons could have been a first-round pick but couldn't stay healthy his senior season at Auburn. Safety Marvin White was not a bad fourth-round pick; Jeff Rowe was a system quarterback at Nevada, and I didn't like this pick because there were better quarterbacks still on the board; Matt Toeaina is a good fit for Cincy's defensive line because he can play defensive end or tackle. Hall was a very good pick, but the Bengals did not do much else to improve on defense.

Cleveland Browns: GRADE: B+
The Browns were going to use the third overall pick on Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas or Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn. At the end of the day, the Browns came away with both players. From a pure talent standpoint, getting CB Eric Wright in the second round is good value. Wright had first-round talent -- you could argue he's better than Leon Hall and Darrelle Revis -- but slid because of character issues. Cornerback Brandon McDonald played under the radar at Memphis; and Melila Purcell has the skills to be a pass-rushing specialist. DT Chase Pittman will be a hardworking backup. The Browns did, however, give up a lot of picks in this draft.

Dallas Cowboys: GRADE: B
Purdue's Anthony Spencer -- who I think has a chance to be the rookie of the year -- gives Dallas a great pass-rusher opposite DeMarcus Ware. James Marten provides good security behind tackle Flozell Adams, who will be a free agent after next season. Isaiah Stanback will move from QB to wide receiver, and I really liked the pick of tackle Doug Free in the fourth round because he has a lot of talent. Dallas took place-kicker Nick Folk when Mason Crosby was still on the board; Deon Anderson will be an excellent lead blocker at fullback, and Courtney Brown has the necessary skills to be a developmental cornerback.

Denver Broncos: GRADE: B-
The Broncos tried to strengthen the defensive line, starting with Jarvis Moss in the first round. In the Broncos' system, he has a chance to get 10-12 sacks next season. Tim Crowder, if he can be more consistent, has a chance to be really good. Denver rolled the dice on former Florida DT Marcus Thomas. No question about his talent -- he spent a lot of time this year on my Big Board -- but character issues caused him to drop. If he stays focused, Denver got a steal in the fourth round. Offensive tackle Ryan Harris had a first-round grade in August, but his stock dropped and Denver grabbed him in the third round.

Detroit Lions: GRADE: C
It would have been tough to pass on Calvin Johnson, the best prospect in the draft. Drew Stanton will be measured against Brady Quinn because the Lions could have taken the Notre Dame QB. Stanton could be a decent starter, but he does not have a lot of upside. Ikaika Alma-Francis is a very good, but very raw, defensive end. Alma-Francis has a lot of talent and potential, and a lot of teams had a high opinion of him. Safety Gerald Alexander was a reach in the second round; A.J. Davis could be a good nickel or dime cornerback; Manuel Ramirez was a nice fourth-round pick who will be a starting guard in the NFL; and Johnny Baldwin was a good small-school linebacker at Alabama A&M who will be a good backup and special-teams player.

Green Bay Packers: GRADE: C+
Defensive tackle Justin Harrell didn't fill need, but the Packers chose the best available player over need. Harrell was hurt most of his senior season, but that didn't hurt his stock much. RB Brandon Jackson, if he can build on his strong finish to 2006, has a chance to be Green Bay's starting running back. James Jones was a decent third-round pick, a good wide receiver with natural receiving skills; safety Aaron Rouse is just an OK third-round pick; offensive tackle Allen Barbre is a bit overrated because he doesn't play as well as he tested during workouts. WR David Clowney has a lot of speed, and inside linebackers Korey Hall and Desmond Bishop should make it in the NFL as backups. Place-kicker Mason Crosby was a really good find in the sixth round. He has a great leg and has kicked in all kinds of weather playing at Colorado and in the Big 12. Crosby is not a product of the altitude in Colorado. I also liked the Packers' seventh-round picks: RB Deshawn Wynn from Florida and Rutgers tight end Clark Harris.

Houston Texans: GRADE: C-
The Texans took defensive tackle Travis Johnson in 2005, and he hasn't played up to his potential. They took DT Amobi Okoye when they should have been looking at a cornerback such as Leon Hall or Darrelle Revis. Also, they didn't do much to help new QB Matt Schaub on offense. Wide receiver Jacoby Jones played at Lane College, and tackle Brandon Frye and guard Kasey Studdard look more like backups than starters. This turned out to be a typical Houston draft. The Texans didn't help David Carr when he was their QB, and they didn't do much to help Schaub. Cornerback Fred Bennett was a good pick in the fourth round, and I really like linebacker Zach Diles. He had two productive years at Kansas State and might have flown under some teams' radar. Getting Diles in the seventh round was a good move.

Indianapolis Colts: GRADE: B-
The Texans should take a page from the Colts. They win the Super Bowl and what do they do in the first round? Give Peyton Manning another weapon on offense by taking WR Anthony Gonzalez. This was a great pick, replacing Brandon Stokley in the Colts' arsenal. Tony Ugoh could be the heir apparent to Tarik Glenn at left tackle, and I really like wide receiver Roy Hall, Gonzalez's teammate at Ohio State. On defense, Daymeion Hughes doesn't have great speed, but in the Colts' scheme, he could excel. Defensive end Quinn Pitcock is a tough, hard-nosed player who gets the job done; safety Brannon Condren was a bit of a reach in the fourth round, and fifth-round pick Michael Coe has the chance to be a good developmental cornerback.

Jacksonville Jaguars: GRADE: C
The Jaguars needed a playmaking safety. They not only got Florida's Reggie Nelson but traded down and still got the player they wanted in addition to draft picks. Linebacker Justin Durant (second round) went a little early, but I know Jacksonville really liked him. Wide receiver Mike Walker (third) also went earlier than I expected, but he does have a nice combination of size and speed. Not only do I like punter Adam Podlesh's strong leg, but he runs a 4.45 40 time, which will force defenses to always be thinking about a fake punt. Linebacker Brian Smith has some pass-rush abilities, but I also thought he would go later than the fourth round. Uche Nwaneri as a guard or center made sense in the fifth round. Josh Gattis is an intriguing safety because he had a good 2006 at Wake Forest only to lose that momentum in the months leading up to the draft. Still, Gattis has a chance to be a decent player.

Kansas City Chiefs: GRADE: C
Wide receiver Dwayne Bowe is a good player, and he filled a need for the Chiefs. Kansas City used its next two picks on defensive tackles: Turk McBride is versatile, and Tank Tyler needs to build on his strong senior season. Kolby Smith is a serviceable running back; Justin Medlock is a good place-kicker, but I would have taken Mason Crosby.

Miami Dolphins: GRADE: C
Passing on Brady Quinn was ridiculous. Ted Ginn is a good player, will help Miami in the return game and fills a need. Still, they had Quinn staring them in the face, and they weren't going to have to trade up to get him. The Dolphins were fortunate that QB John Beck was still available in the second round and they were able to salvage their quarterback situation. Samson Satele is a good center, but he might have to play guard because Miami already has Rex Hadnot. Lorenzo Booker could be a really good third-down back. Paul Soliai was a very good pick in the fourth round and could see a lot of playing time in 2007. Drew Mormino made sense as a backup center; Kelvin Smith has a chance to be a starting linebacker someday; and Brandon Fields has a strong leg but is inconsistent.

Minnesota Vikings: GRADE: B+
Vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman had an outstanding weekend. Somebody had to fall to the Vikings in the first round, and with Adrian Peterson, they got a potential franchise running back to go along with Chester Taylor. Sidney Rice -- who could have been a top-15 pick if he had returned for his senior season -- is a great value pick in the second round. If cornerback Marcus McCauley plays the way he did as a junior, the Vikings got a great player in the third round. If McCauley plays like he did in 2006, he'll struggle to make the team. Brian Robison is a pass-rushing defensive end and a very good Day 2 selection. Robison also will contribute on special teams. Wide receiver Aundrae Allison spent time on the Big Board in 2006 and was a good pick in the fifth round; Rufus Alexander was a solid sixth-round pick; and Tyler Thigpen is more of a developmental, third-string quarterback.

New England Patriots: GRADE: B
Brandon Meriweather was the Patriots' only pick on the first day. He will fill a need at safety, fits their scheme and can cover, but Meriweather has to play like he did as an underclassman because he did not have a good senior season. Kareem Brown was an average defensive tackle at Miami who never took his game to the next level. Of the six picks the Pats had in the sixth and seventh rounds, they'll be fortunate if two of them pan out. The reason for giving the Patriots a B grade is they utilized the draft process by getting Randy Moss for a fourth-round pick as well as acquiring the 49ers' first-round pick in 2008.

New Orleans Saints: GRADE: B-
New Orleans went with Robert Meachem, the best available player on the board. The Saints weren't desperate for a wide receiver, but this was still a good pick. Cornerback Usama Young has a lot of physical talent, but his play at Kent was up and down. Taking Young in the third round could qualify as a reach. Young might have been a reach, but guard Andy Alleman was a quality pick in the third round. Antonio Pittman will give New Orleans more depth at running back; Jermon Bushrod is a quality prospect at left tackle; and David Jones from Wingate was a good sleeper pick. He had 15 career interceptions and was a really good small-college defensive back. Marvin Mitchell will be a backup linebacker.

New York Giants: GRADE: C-
I would have gone differently with the Giants' draft. Cornerback Aaron Ross has very good ball skills but not great catchup speed. I was surprised they didn't take left tackle Joe Staley because they need someone who can protect Eli Manning's blind side. The Giants took offensive tackle Adam Koets in the sixth round and even passed on left tackle Jermon Bushrod. If they had taken Staley, they could have drafted Eric Wright from UNLV instead of WR Steve Smith. I would rather have had Staley and Wright, but Smith is a good receiver and will be someone who holds onto the ball. Zak DeOssie was a really good long snapper in college and, at worst, will be a backup linebacker in the NFL. Kevin Boss (fifth round) is a natural pass-catching tight end with speed and has a chance to make an impact in the passing game. Safety Michael Johnson was a good pick in the seventh round but needs to be more physical.

New York Jets: GRADE: B
it was quality over quantity for the Jets, who drafted only four players. They traded up to get their first two picks, CB Darrelle Revis and linebacker David Harris. I had Harris going in the first half of the first round, so this is a great pickup for the Jets. Jacob Bender has a chance to be a nice developmental prospect at tackle.

Oakland Raiders: GRADE C+
JaMarcus Russell was a no-brainer because he has the chance to be a franchise quarterback. The Raiders have been trying for years to draft a tight end, and they took Zach Miller in the second round. Defensive end Quentin Moses had a first-round grade entering 2006, but he had an average senior season. Personally, I would have taken Moses' teammate Charles Johnson, but Moses does have talent. Left tackle Mario Henderson has tremendous physical ability but needs to put it all together on the field. I really like the picks of Johnnie Lee Higgins and running back Michael Bush. Higgins has very good hands as a wide receiver and also will help out in the return game. As for Bush, if he's healthy, the Raiders got a first-round pick in the fourth round. Jay Richardson was an average defensive end at Ohio State; safety Eric Frampton was a solid fifth-round pick out of Washington State; and Orenthal O'Neal is a good lead blocker for a fullback.

Philadelphia Eagles: GRADE: C-
First, they made a trade with the Cowboys, who used the pick on defensive end Anthony Spencer. Then, the Eagles used the 36th overall pick (their first pick in the draft) on Houston QB Kevin Kolb when QBs Drew Stanton, John Beck and Trent Edwards were all still on the board. I thought Kolb was a reach because he reminds me of Kyle Boller. Defensive end Victor Abiamiri was a good pick in the second round, and linebacker Stewart Bradley was a decent choice in the third round. Running back Tony Hunt was a good third-round pick; C.J. Gaddis, I thought, would have been a priority free agent instead of a fifth-rounder; Brent Celek is an average tight end prospect; and cornerback Rashad Barksdale will battle for roster spot.

Pittsburgh Steelers: GRADE: B
For the 3-4 defense, Lawrence Timmons was a good pick in the first round and using their second-round choice on LaMarr Woodley will give the Steelers some versatility in that Woodley could play as a defensive end in four-man fronts. I'm not sure how effective he can be as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, but Woodley is a true playmaker on the field. Tight end Matt Spaeth is an excellent blocker and will complement Heath Miller and Jerame Tuman. I liked the fourth-round pick on Daniel Sepulveda, a left-footed punter with a big leg; defensive tackle Ryan McBean has a ton of talent but has to get more consistent; William Gay has a chance to be a good cornerback who can help in nickel or dime packages; and Dallas Baker was a good seventh-round pick because he has good height (6-3) and very long arms.

St. Louis Rams: GRADE: C+
A very good player and a solid first-round pick, Adam Carriker will be used more as a defensive tackle by the Rams. I really like the pick of Brian Leonard in the second round because he gives St. Louis options on offense. He can spell Steven Jackson at running back, play fullback when necessary, and also be used as a move tight end or H-back. Former wide receiver Jonathan Wade is still raw as a cornerback but was a decent third-round pick; center Dustin Fry is an overachiever; and Cliff Ryan should be able to contribute along the defensive line.

San Diego Chargers: GRADE: C
Wide receiver Craig Davis was a slight reach in the first round, but he does fill a major need. The Chargers also gave up a lot to get safety Eric Weddle in the second round; however, like Davis, Weddle fills a major need and was one of smarter and more versatile players in the draft. Anthony Waters is coming off a torn ACL, so if he can play like he did in 2005, he would be a good value pick. Tight end Scott Chandler is a good pass catcher but a marginal blocker, and WR Legedu Naanee has long-range potential.

San Francisco 49ers: GRADE: B+
After the 49ers took a tackling machine in linebacker Patrick Willis with the 11th pick, I liked seeing them move back into the first round (trading for New England's second first-round pick) and get Joe Staley, one of the best offensive tackles in the draft. QB Alex Smith needs someone who's going to protect his blind side, and Staley could do that for years to come. Jason Hill has a lot of speed and was a decent third-round pick. Defensive end Ray McDonald fits Mike Nolan's 3-4 defense; Jay Moore is an intense, hardworking outside linebacker; Dashon Goldson is more of a backup cornerback; Joe Cohen is a backup defensive tackle; cornerback Tarell Brown is a nice cornerback if he stays focused; and running back Thomas Clayton will be a very good backup to Frank Gore.

Seattle Seahawks: GRADE: C
The Seahawks didn't have a pick in the first round, but they were able to get cornerback Josh Wilson in the second round and he could be a factor in Seattle's secondary in 2007 and also help in the return game. Brandon Mebane will be good rotation defensive tackle. The same goes for Baraka Atkins at defensive end. Mansfield Wrotto (4th round) went a little high for a player I think will be a backup; Will Herring will be a backup linebacker and solid performer on special teams; WR Courtney Taylor does not have a lot of speed but is more of a possession receiver and should make the team as a fourth or fifth wide receiver; and wide receiver Jordan Kent, son of Oregon basketball coach Ernie Kent, also has some ability.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: GRADE: C
The Bucs wanted wide receiver Calvin Johnson, but they weren't willing to give up enough to get the best player in the draft. Gaines Adams is similar to Simeon Rice, but he needs to do a better job against the run. Arron Sears is a versatile guard and was a solid second-round choice. Safety Sabby Piscitelli doesn't play as fast he does in workouts, but in Tampa Bay's defensive structure, there's a chance he could end up starting in 2007. You could argue Quincy Black was the fastest and most athletic linebacker in the draft, but he's not really instinctive. Tanard Jackson is an aggressive cornerback who could move inside to safety; defensive lineman Greg Peterson is a good developmental lineman; linebacker Adam Hayward is a marginal prospect; and offensive tackle Chris Denman is underrated and an overachiever and I like his chances of making the team.

Tennessee Titans: GRADE: C-
Vince Young needed help at wide receiver, and the Titans had Robert Meachem staring right at them. Michael Griffin is a nice safety, but he was a luxury pick and the Titans couldn't afford to take a safety when they needed help at other positions. The Titans also needed a running back, but Chris Henry wasn't productive in the Pac-10, so I'm not sold on taking him in the second round. Wide receivers Paul Williams, Chris Davis and Joel Filani are good but not great. Tennessee could have done a better job of helping the offense around Young. Griffin is a tough, hard-hitting safety and will be a great special-teams player.

Washington Redskins: GRADE: C-
Washington had only one pick in the first four rounds and made the most of it, getting LaRon Landry. (You could argue Landry was the best defensive player in the draft). Drafting Landry will allow Sean Taylor to play center field and roam the middle of the field. Landry will be in the box, and that will negate his weakness, which is judging the deep ball. In the fifth round, the Redskins took an average linebacker in Dallas Sartz; linebacker HB Blades was a decent sixth-round pick although a bit undersized; and QB Jordan Palmer never really emerged as a potential starter.

[paniro777]

those grades suck, everyone got a B or a C? That doesn't seem too accurate.

[DJSteel]

i agree with you .. it was a Kiper bell curve..lol.. Miami deserves a D..

[Keith Moon]

- I think the Rams deserve an A+ with some teacher sex thrown in. Srsly.

[paniro777]

- I think the Rams deserve an A+ with some teacher sex thrown in. Srsly.

Rams got a good player in Brian Leonard. I'm interested to see how he does at the next level. He's a great athlete, and a very good all around football player. I would have loved for the bears to get him but wasn't worth taking that early for us. I was however surprised that the Giants passed on him being that he's a local hero for helping turn the Rutgers program around.

[jazz]

Miami Dolphins: GRADE: C
Passing on Brady Quinn was ridiculous. Ted Ginn is a good player, will help Miami in the return game and fills a need. Still, they had Quinn staring them in the face, and they weren't going to have to trade up to get him. The Dolphins were fortunate that QB John Beck was still available in the second round and they were able to salvage their quarterback situation. Samson Satele is a good center, but he might have to play guard because Miami already has Rex Hadnot. Lorenzo Booker could be a really good third-down back. Paul Soliai was a very good pick in the fourth round and could see a lot of playing time in 2007. Drew Mormino made sense as a backup center; Kelvin Smith has a chance to be a starting linebacker someday; and Brandon Fields has a strong leg but is inconsistent.
brady quinn isn't a guarantee.

call me :krazy:, but i'm trusting cam cameron's decision on this one. his track record as a "qb expert" in san diego must account for something.

here's a great article (http://www.encircling.us/linksout/o.php?out=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-hyde29apr29,0,4356805.column?coll=sfla-dolphins-front)

i remember reading this one quote i read where quinn said that the game against the dolphins this year would be circled on his schedule. didn't they show pics of this moron wearing a cleveland browns uniform as a kid on ESPN? what the hell is he complaining about? and here i was feeling bad for the kid.

wah, i didn't get picked.

[jazz]

so far, all signs are pointing to us obtaining trent green. :byrche: could anyone tell me his pros/cons? i rarely ever watch this guy play. i do know that he suffered a pretty bad concussion and he's dropped in rating since then, but is he worth trying out? http://www.encircling.us/linksout/o.php?out=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-trent043007,0,4361302.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

also, there's a video on this page (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/) (entitled Dolphins #2 pick John Beck news conference :dopey:) where our qb pick, john beck, talks to the press. he seems like a good, down-to-earth kid.

in this vid, he needles a 70-yard bomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHBy7uIV_iE).

...and we might as well draft the entire univ. of hawaii (http://www.encircling.us/linksout/o.php?out=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-dolsign0432807,0,3080459.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front) team while we're at it. :what:

[DJSteel]

John beck is older than most rookies..

Trent Green is not mobile, he's got an arm, but without an OL he is not effective...

[jazz]

John beck is older than most rookies..

yeah, i think he's like 25 or 26 and is married. :what:

[DJSteel]

yeah he had to do his BYU mission...

[jazz]

Olsen's rap makes Imus look like feminist (http://www.encircling.us/linksout/o.php?out=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/365087,CST-NWS-carol01.article)

[Modus Ponens]

brady quinn isn't a guarantee.

call me :krazy:, but i'm trusting cam cameron's decision on this one. his track record as a "qb expert" in san diego must account for something.

here's a great article (http://www.encircling.us/linksout/o.php?out=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-hyde29apr29,0,4356805.column?coll=sfla-dolphins-front)

i remember reading this one quote i read where quinn said that the game against the dolphins this year would be circled on his schedule. didn't they show pics of this moron wearing a cleveland browns uniform as a kid on ESPN? what the hell is he complaining about? and here i was feeling bad for the kid.

wah, i didn't get picked.

Think of how much money is lost out on sliding that far.

[paniro777]

Olsen's rap makes Imus look like feminist (http://www.encircling.us/linksout/o.php?out=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/365087,CST-NWS-carol01.article)

lmfao @ this. Wow a college freshman saying and/or doing something they regret, now thats rare.

Bears signed Chris Leak, Florida QB.

[jazz]

Think of how much money is lost out on sliding that far.
that's tough luck for him. how many teams passed up on him again?

[MojoFearsSatan]

21. But then, only a few with QB problems, or at least the kind where you need to obtain a franchise QB.

[DJSteel]

lmfao @ this. Wow a college freshman saying and/or doing something they regret, now thats rare.

Bears signed Chris Leak, Florida QB.

they should have signed Tyler Palko instead...Leak is a waste of time

[Da Rafsta]

did I join Unscripted 360's message boards??? :hmmm:

[dionysusolympus]

Da, you've got Zabransky. :woo:

but we'll see how well he does in the pros.

[DJSteel]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/DJHads/thsteelers.gif

[dionysusolympus]

and Keyshawn Johnson may be in the unemployment line.

http://bestsyndication.com/writers/sports/NASCAR/DanWilson/images/Dale-Earnhardt-Jr-Chicagoland.jpg

[DJSteel]

that is what Hines is dancin about..lol

[MojoFearsSatan]

I like how it looks like Kreider runs up and pops him one in the side of the head.

[DJSteel]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/DJHads/steelers.gif

[Da Rafsta]

that's a crazy ass clip of Hines, lmfao! He's mocking Ocho Cinco's river dance, eh?

[DJSteel]

yes he was... the same season he mocked TO and the Eagle wave

[Da Rafsta]

hfhhahahhaha...got damn that shit's hilarious man! Hine's couldn't be further from doing a river dance but we get the point. That's what makes it that much funnier.

[DJSteel]

and this is for Paniro...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/DJHads/th1010819365_s-1.gif

[Da Rafsta]

that second clip you put up, that crazy TD by Ward or Randle El is a better one, IMO. It was against the Bears as well.

[DJSteel]

that was Ward...

[paniro777]

that don't bother me man. I don't make a big deal out of that. A homerun hitter is supposed to hit homeruns, a hard puncher is supposed to get knock outs, and a big fat running back is supposed to run people over. Add to that it was in the snow and well, really wasn't all that special. Far from a Christian Okoye type of truck. But enjoy it, it was a pretty good play.

[jazz]

21. But then, only a few with QB problems, or at least the kind where you need to obtain a franchise QB.
of course, but there was something in brady that our coach didn't like. he says you can't teach accuracy, you could only teach accurate qbs to get better. that's why we chose beck.

[MAGO]

JETS FTW!...

[dionysusolympus]

JETS ftw in the HomosexuaBowl!

[MAGO]

The Dlolphins pwn!....glad to see they really know what they're doing down there :up: ....and great picks by the Eaglelols....

[dionysusolympus]

Glad to have you back in your gayness. So did you play any games at Atlantic City?

[MAGO]

Blackjack and i lost it all :hrmph:

[Bruce]

Are you expecting a visit from the Mob? :gaynoes:

[MAGO]

of course not... :whistle:

[Bruce]

:bat:

:secret: Joe Pesci is going to break yous fuckin' legs

[MAGO]

me and Joe are tight, fuhgedaboutit....

[jazz]

Blackjack and i lost it all :hrmph:
did you get past the start screen? :what:

[MAGO]

:clap2: !!



















































































:what:

[jazz]

did anyone NV your MAGOness when you wore your MAN U jersey?

we're gonna have to talk about your fascination with using CAPS LOCK at some point:secret:

[MAGO]

dem hoes was sweating me son...

[jazz]

you go, girl :what:

[MAGO]

ohhhkay!...

[jazz]

http://www.encircling.us/photoplog/images/1/1_eviltom.gif

[MAGO]

:clap2: !!

[jazz]

http://www.encircling.us/photoplog/images/1/1_eviltom2.gif

[DJSteel]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/DJHads/thvandamme.gif

[jazz]

:twitch:

[DJSteel]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/DJHads/thhulkster.gif

[MAGO]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/DJHads/thvandamme.gif

:laughing:

[Keith Moon]

- Those were the dayz.

[MAGO]

that clip just motivated me to go home and watch Krush Groove :up:

[Keith Moon]

- Yep, I think I'm gonna go breakdance down by the projects in a few.

[MAGO]

- Yep, I think I'm gonna go breakdance down by the projects in a few.

here's a few pointers, :up: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xatZgEZ62fU)

[DJSteel]

don't hate on Van Damme dancin

[MAGO]

he did that same dance step in Kickboxer :what:

[sneakypete]

ricky williams test positive for marijuana again! hilarious. yet sad. single tear. then single chuckle.

[DJSteel]

still the best catch ever...

http://blog.pengoworks.com/files/steelers/swanny.gif

[jazz]

ricky williams test positive for marijuana again! hilarious. yet sad. single tear. then single chuckle.
are you serious?

motherfuck that piece of shit! :argh:

[sneakypete]

more serious than he takes his football career.

[MojoFearsSatan]

are you serious?

motherfuck that piece of shit! :argh:

well, they already said it was unlikely the Phins would take him back as readily now Saban has gone; and they did clear out his locker and give it to Lorenzo Booker, so maybe it's for the best. Or he can go to the Brownies and they can have Williams and Jamal Lewis in their backfield, cos that would be hilarious, like some comedy duo.

[MAGO]

they planned on trading him, guess they can forget that now :what:

[MAGO]

Tank Johnson has been suspended for 8 games.... (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19032949/)

[dionysusolympus]

http://fark.pbwiki.com/f/bea.jpg

:what:

[MAGO]

:thud:

[dionysusolympus]

http://www.dodgybarnet.com/images/yoda-stfu.jpg

[MAGO]

EL :spam: O

[dionysusolympus]

click here, :MAGO4: (http://www.forumspile.com/STFU-Bruce_Lee.jpg)

[MAGO]

:clap2: !!

[dionysusolympus]

http://home.sc.rr.com/jbernick/gb-stfu.JPG

[MAGO]

:orly2:

[dionysusolympus]

http://www.redline925.com/yarly.jpg

[MAGO]

wow

[dionysusolympus]

http://media.damnfunnypictures.com/dfp/gtfo_forum_11.jpg

[MAGO]

:sad2: ..i miss Bob already!!

[paniro777]

Tank Johnson has been suspended for 8 games.... (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19032949/)

awww man, tough, real tough. I was hoping it be a lot less, like 4 games. O well. This will give some of the young DTs we have some time to really learn that spot and show if they can play at this level.

[DJSteel]

he deserves a full season..next time lifetime ban.. they need to get it into these players heads that it's not OK to do this..

[MAGO]

that's what i don't get, he was convicted and served jail time and gets 8 games, Pac-Man has been questioned 10 times by po-po and he's suspended for the whole year?!....Goodell is sending a mixed message....i think all these morons should be kicked out of the NFL for acting like a bunch of jackasses, heck suspend Justin Miller 4-8 games for punching that chick!...

[dionysusolympus]

snuff the bitch.

/:agent:

:what:

[Bruce]

They should just do away with the NFL all together.






























:roflmao:

[MAGO]

:thehand:

[dionysusolympus]

Best Defensive Player (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2892428)

I think Urlacher >>> Bailey in terms of actual usefulness and productivity. And Bailey is an overblown threat. Tell a story long enough and you'll begin to believe it.

[MAGO]

no.

[dionysusolympus]

yes.

maggot.

[MAGO]

ok.

[dionysusolympus]

:orly2:

[MAGO]

lol

[paniro777]

he deserves a full season..next time lifetime ban.. they need to get it into these players heads that it's not OK to do this..

come on man. He hasn't been involved in anything where he was causing direct harm to others, or caused some type of violent outburst. Your boy joey porter has done that, starting fights in public places.

Tanks house was searched, they found guns, they were registered in his home state, all he did was violate probation, so he had to serve some time.

I know pac man has never been convicted, but come on man. He's been involved and linked to shooting after shooting, starting fight after fight, he just causes a lot of trouble. He deserves to be suspended longer than tank, and so he was.

Not only that, but tank at least seems to be honestly trying to turn his life around, and stay out of any trouble, unlike the other fools.

[MAGO]

lol...he was on probation for guns, gets caught with more guns, then goes to a nightclub where his boy is shot(who knows what led to the shooting)after his second arrest and serves jail time....that's enough for a year long suspension imo, Pac-Man, yeah he's been linked, but never charged, don't get me wrong, i could care less about PM, i'm just saying the message Goodell is sending is, if you don't want to be suspended for the year, make sure you get convicted..lol..

[dionysusolympus]

http://hosted.thegroupofthey.com/gtfo.jpg

[paniro777]

lol...he was on probation for guns, gets caught with more guns, then goes to a nightclub where his boy is shot(who knows what led to the shooting)after his second arrest and serves jail time....that's enough for a year long suspension imo, Pac-Man, yeah he's been linked, but never charged, don't get me wrong, i could care less about PM, i'm just saying the message Goodell is sending is, if you don't want to be suspended for the year, make sure you get convicted..lol..

well again, 2 years ago he was caught with a gun while in his car. He got probation for that. Then his house was raided, not because of him, but because of his friend. During the raid they founds guns, which again, were all legally registered, just not in that state. They were all registered in his home state where he previously lived. He wasn't charged with anything new as a result of that. He just violated probation.

The nightclub incident is a little unfair to use against him. By all counts he was nowhere near the incident when things happened. On top of that, by all counts, his friend didn't start the fight, and he and his friend did not have any weapons at the club. His friend was shot and killed.

It isn't like tank went to a club and started a fight and punched a woman in the face or anything like that!!!!

[Da Rafsta]

who woke this P-Giant?

[MAGO]

more than one arrest should get you suspended for a year, a third a lifetime ban imo....as an NFL fan i'd like to see all these repeat offenders removed from the league...F! them!

[Da Rafsta]

more than one arrest should get you suspended for a year, a third a lifetime ban imo....as an NFL fan i'd like to see all these repeat offenders removed from the league...F! them!
...."and their momma too..."

[paniro777]

more than one arrest should get you suspended for a year, a third a lifetime ban imo....as an NFL fan i'd like to see all these repeat offenders removed from the league...F! them!

arrested? or convicted? Because pacman has been arrested a bunch of times, just not convicted. If a guy doesn't change his ways, like pacman and henry, i agree with you.

Tank got in trouble 1 time which was back in 2005. Over a year later, his house was raided because of his friend that stayed there, and as a result was charged with violating probation. He served his time for that. Doesn't seem like that much of a criminal history, convictions or not. What he's done and been involved in pales in comparison to PacMan IMO.

[dionysusolympus]

:MAGO4: went to jail and came out a wife.

[MAGO]

arrested....these are all adults that make millions of $$, use some of that $$ to take some classes on learning to act....and the fact that Tank got in trouble a second time cause of his friend doesn't erase the fact that he had illegal guns, you'd think that after the first arrest he'd make an effort to register his guns in his new state....it's no excuse :shrug:

[MAGO]

:dio2: went to jail as a tight end and came out a wide receiver.

*

[Keith Moon]

- You're only rich if you're rich.

[MAGO]

- You're only rich if you're rich.

:agree: ...that's really the only way to claim that you're rich...

[Bruce]

They don't have these problems in the CFL. :byrche:

[dionysusolympus]

the NFL should start an expansion league from all the prisons and call it the PFL. it would be sort like Blitz: The League but for realz.

[MAGO]

:nanner9:

[Bruce]

They should bring back the XFL. That shit was hot, son.

[Keith Moon]

- Ratings were too high.

[MAGO]

lol!

[dionysusolympus]

i still have the XFL football.

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/f7/3f/sprtAllFootballSpalding_XFL_Official_Game_Football _624591-resized200.jpg

:wiggnan:

[MAGO]

me too :MAGO:

[dionysusolympus]

NFL football >>> NCAA football >>> XFL football >>> AFL football

[MAGO]

:clap2: !!

[Bruce]

Arena is too fast for me. Garsh. :huh:

[MAGO]

tell them to slow down! :captslap:

[dionysusolympus]

http://home.iprimus.com.au/shaunhenderson/images/stfu.jpg

[MAGO]

i counted 8 :sarcasm:

[dionysusolympus]

http://www.lithedark.com/media/images/misc/hitler-stfu.jpg

[MAGO]

his lips aren't moving :sarcasm:

[dionysusolympus]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/dionysusolympus/commentsuck.jpg

[jazz]

Green Hopes He's the Answer for Dolphins (http://www.encircling.us/go.php?url=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sns-ap-fbn-dolphins-chiefs-trade,0,5368543.story?coll=sns-ap-football-headlines)

yeah, yeah. :jerk:

[MAGO]

:dio:

[Keith Moon]

- That's a stinger.

[MAGO]

it's only a stinger if it stings......

[Keith Moon]

- :agree: ...if it's stingin' then it's got to sting.

[MAGO]

'Pacman' drops appeal, will serve suspension (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18617688/)

NEW YORK - Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones withdrew the appeal of his suspension Tuesday and will serve the one-year term imposed by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

“I understand my responsibilities to my teammates, the Titans and my fans and I am committed to turning my life around and being a positive member of the NFL,” Jones said in a statement issued by his agent.

Jones met with Goodell at NFL headquarters Tuesday and was accompanied to New York by agent Michael Huyghue.

“Last week, I asked for an opportunity to meet privately with commissioner Goodell,” Jones said in the statement. “I met with him earlier today to tell him about the steps I have taken to change my life since being suspended by the NFL. I accept the discipline that’s been imposed on me and I am withdrawing my appeal.”

Goodell suspended Jones on April 10 for a series of off-field episodes. He has been interviewed by police 10 times and been arrested five times since he was drafted in 2005. Jones and his attorneys appealed the suspension May 11. It could be reduced to 10 games if Jones meets all the restrictions set by Goodell.

Huyghue said Jones intended to keep working out and would go back to school, taking courses online from West Virginia University, where he played.

Jones’ suspension was the most severe of three handed down this spring by Goodell as part of the commissioner’s crackdown on player misbehavior during a year that included the arrest of nine Cincinnati Bengals.

Tank Johnson of Chicago and Chris Henry of Cincinnati each got eight games, Johnson after serving two months in jail for violating probation on a gun charge, and Henry — Jones’ teammate at West Virginia — for four arrests in 14 months. Henry served a two-game suspension last season.

Neither the NFL nor the Titans had comment.

At the time of the suspension, Titans owner Bud Adams said the team respected Goodell’s decision and added: “We are hopeful that it will achieve the goals of disciplining the player and eventually enabling him to return to the field of play.”

The Titans took steps last weekend to fill Jones’ spot by signing cornerback Kelly Herndon, a former starter for Seattle and Denver.

The length of Jones’ suspension could hinge on developments in Las Vegas involving a fight and shooting at a strip club during the NBA All-Star weekend that paralyzed one person. Police there recommended felony and misdemeanor charges against Jones, but the investigation continues.

Jones was the sixth overall pick by the Titans in the 2005 draft. If he misses the entire season, the suspension will cost him his salary of $1,292,500.

[Keith Moon]

- :mspacman::jerk2:

[MAGO]

what a fucking loser!!!!!!! :lol: .... (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19289335/)

DECATUR, Ga. - Police were seeking Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones for questioning about a shooting early Monday morning involving members of his entourage after a fight at an Atlanta strip club.

Jones is currently suspended by the NFL following a melee and shooting at a Las Vegas strip club and other scrapes with police.

Jones, his entourage and three other people got into a fight, apparently over a woman, at a club in DeKalb County around 4 a.m., Officer Ariel Toledo said.

After everyone involved left the club—the three people in one car, and Jones and his entourage in three other cars—someone in Jones’ entourage shot at the car, and the others returned fire, Toledo said.

Toledo said Jones was not present when the shots were fired.

“We believe he knows some of his entourage who were involved in the shooting,” Toledo said. “On himself, we do not have any charges on him. He wasn’t there when the shooting occurred.”

One person who was outside the vehicles and not involved in the dispute was injured by debris in the shooting and was treated by emergency medical technicians, Toledo said.

Manny Arora, Jones’ attorney, said he was trying to find out what had happened from the police, but he understood Jones was sought only as a witness to the incident.

Authorities have also been investigating what role Jones, a native of College Park, Ga., had in a February shooting outside a Las Vegas club that left a bar employee paralyzed and two other people wounded.

Attorney Robert Langford said no evidence tied Jones to the shooting, but an aide to Clark County District Attorney David Roger said it could take several days to decide if there is enough information to file charges against Jones and two friends.

The Las Vegas allegations were among a series of arrests and encounters with police that led NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend Jones for one season. Jones has not been convicted of any crimes since being drafted in 2005.

Jones agreed last week not to appeal the suspension. The 23-year-old player could be reinstated after 10 games for good behavior if he adheres to conditions set by Goodell and is not arrested again. Missing the entire season would cost him his salary of nearly $1.3 million.

[Bruce]

And everyone thought Ricky Williams was so bad. :lol:

[MAGO]

fo :wii: ll...lol

[dionysusolympus]

Pennington is on a short leash...lol.

[MAGO]

:nanner9:

[dionysusolympus]

fo :wii: ll...lol

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[Keith Moon]

Pennington is on a short leash...lol.


- Is that similar to being on the short bus?

[dionysusolympus]

- Is that similar to being on the short bus?

:yes:

Supposedly, the analysts are saying that Kevin Curtis may become the Iggles #2 receiver.

[MAGO]

the iggles still exist?!....WOW!





































:owndance:

[Bruce]

Is TO receiving for them again? Keyshawn?

[dionysusolympus]

yep, since 1933. as opposed to the Jets in the 60s :qmark:

[MAGO]

:ha:

[dionysusolympus]

:spam:

[MAGO]

no :spam:

[dionysusolympus]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/dionysusolympus/thWWE-1.gif

[MAGO]

where's Brit? :what:

[MAGO]

Lavar Arrington injured in crash (http://www.amny.com/news/local/crime/ny-splavar0619,0,655468.story?coll=am-homepage-mezz)

Media outlets in Washington have reported that former Giants linebacker LaVar Arrington was seriously injured in a motorcycle accident Monday near Washington's Capital Beltway.

Fire officials told the WTOP Radio that Arrington was listed in serious condition, but no other details about the injuries were immediately available.

According to WUSA-TV, the former No. 2 overall draft pick in 2000 was driving his motorcycle on the Rt. 50 off-ramp to the Beltway when the crash occurred. The location of the crash is less than two miles from FedEx Field near Landover, Md., where Arrington played for the Washington Redskins for the first six years of his career.

WUSA reported that Arrington's injuries are not life-threatening, and that his wife and other relatives had joined him at Prince George's Hospital Center in Cheverly, Md.

Arrington signed a seven-year, $49-million deal with Giants last summer, but the team released him in February after he had played just six games. Arrington's season ended on Oct. 23 when he tore his Achilles tendon against Dallas.

[dionysusolympus]

Giants >>> Jets

[jazz]

Giants >>> Jets
the giants are better in baseball too :what:

[Agent]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/dionysusolympus/thWWE-1.gif
one of the worst finishers ever in the history of wrestling

[MojoFearsSatan]

that'S supposed to be a finisher? It'slittle more than a body slam...

[MAGO]

Cena should stick to rapping :what:

[dionysusolympus]

the Jets should stick to washing windows.

[MAGO]

Iggles should stick with McNabb!!! :owndance: !!!

[dionysusolympus]

and the Jets should stick to Pennington. o, that's right...he might get passed for Clements...my bad.

[MAGO]

:o :wii: lly:

[dionysusolympus]

:yes:.

[MAGO]

liar!!..Pennington is clutch in the playoffs!!!

[dionysusolympus]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w305/og12gauge/Snoop%20Dogg/ICONATOR_f9e3fa8a6d7b9d2895347d7e23.gif

[MAGO]

i can't see anything :hrmph:

[dionysusolympus]

that's cuz you a blind ass muthafucka.

[MAGO]

:ha: ...i still can't see it :eek2:

[Keith Moon]

- Then we'll have to bring out Pictionary.

[MAGO]

:nanner24: !!

[MAGO]

'Pacman' Jones to be charged with two felonies (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19289335/)

LAS VEGAS - Suspended NFL player Adam “Pacman” Jones will face two felony charges in a strip club melee that preceded a triple shooting in February, Las Vegas police and the Clark County District Attorney’s office said Wednesday.

Two other people previously identified by police as friends of the troubled Tennessee Titans cornerback also will face felony charges in the fracas inside the Minxx club, police said in a statement.

No one is named in the shooting that occurred later outside the club and left a bar employee paralyzed and two others with minor injuries, police Capt. James Dillon said.

Warrants were issued for the arrests of Jones, Robert Reid of Carson, Calif., and Sadia Morrison of New York, Dillon said.

The 23-year-old Jones, of Franklin, Tenn., faces two counts of felony coercion stemming from allegations he threatened to kill club employees and bit a bar bouncer on the ankle, according to a criminal complaint filed in Clark County District Court.

The 37-year-old Reid faces one felony coercion charge alleging he attacked a bouncer who tried to restrain Jones.

The 24-year-old Morrison faces charges including felony assault with a deadly weapon and battery stemming from allegations that she hit the bouncer in the head with a bottle and attacked several other club employees with a chair.

Coercion is the act of threatening or physically interfering with a person trying to do something that he or she has a right and responsibility to do.

The charges are slightly different from those police sought in March against Jones, Reid and Morrison. Clark County District Attorney David Roger declined to file those charges, asking police for more information and to identify a shooter.

“The investigation continued and additional evidence was gathered, that’s why it’s different,” Dillon said. “These are complicated acts and charges. We’ve worked closely with the district attorney.”

A Las Vegas lawyer representing the three was expected to contact police to arrange their surrender, an aide to Roger said.

The lawyer, Robert Langford, did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

Police said the Feb. 19 fracas broke out inside the club, Minxx, several blocks off the Las Vegas Strip when dancers on stage were showered with thousands of dollar bills near the end of NBA All-Star weekend.


i hope this bans him from the league completely......

[Pun'KinG']

Nah. He'll probably just get another suspension. And maybe summer school.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/salevelas/pacmanchart.png

[MAGO]

lol

[dionysusolympus]

Pacman >>> Pennington.

[MAGO]

Pacman >>> Yo momma.

[dionysusolympus]

My momma >>> yo momma.

[MAGO]

that was mean!! :hrmph:

[MojoFearsSatan]

the troubled Tennessee Titans cornerback

That's dumb. You should only really count as "troubled" if you didn't dig yourself into the mess through stupidity. Maybe the "troublesome", "immature" or "shit-for-brains" Tennessee Titans cornerback, but "troubled" implies it isn't his fault. He's a dumbass, he shoulda sorted himself out, but he didn't. Tough shit.

[MAGO]

:word: ...tired of hearing about that POS, hopefully they'll kick him out for good....

[paniro777]

and people were saying tank johnson was worse than this guy, lmfao. Pacman is a shootin incident waiting to happen.

[MAGO]

have the results of Tanks alcohol level been made public yet??..he was stopped and taken to the police station early Friday or Saturday morning for suspicion of DUI.....

[paniro777]

have the results of Tanks alcohol level been made public yet??..he was stopped and taken to the police station early Friday or Saturday morning for suspicion of DUI.....

lmfao, go figure this would happen. Pulled over for doing a 40 in a 25, thats pretty rough. And then he was apparenlty impaired "to the slightest degree". This sounds like a bunch of crap IMO. At least no bullets went flying. Blood test may not be available for a week or two.

[MAGO]

he better hope he's clean, or he'll miss the season... :shame:

[MAGO]

a DT from the Dolphins was arrested over the weekend also....he bit a cop :lol: ...i think his last name is Evans, not sure if he's a starter or what...

[dionysusolympus]

The Jets and the Bengals should get married.

[MAGO]

:o :wii: lly:

[dionysusolympus]

:yes:

and then they can star in Oz and rape each other and then start a prison expansion football league.