The Alice In Chains Thread

[Nostawen]

C´mon!! They deserved one!!!. I think many of us here love them, and we never had a space to discuss about them. So...spread the voice!!

Must to drown these thoughts....purity over rot

[greg]

:inlove:

[Nostawen]

Yeah!! Tits´ in!!!

[B]

Theres not much to dwell on other than the past and the great music, so i dont think this thread will go very far. But AIC kicks ass :up:

[Nostawen]

Well, it´s not meant to go that far. This is a tribute to my love for them *sniff*. And to preach that, no matter what, AIC kicks Nirvana´s ass. Dirt > Nevermind.

PS: Sos...I´ve just realized that Trent closes his eyes on your av. And it´s damn scary

[greg]

I like the one with him breathing heavy too( the one from .oaid)

[Nostawen]

There´s a lot of Trent avs going on here

[BigBadZep!]

Good band. Well, I really enjoy Jar of Flies, S/T, and Sap. But not so much Facelift and Dirt.

[Nostawen]

:loon: Facelift and Dirt are my favourites!

[BigBadZep!]

Meh. They do have some really good songs on them. But they also have a great deal of run-of-the-mill riffs and songwriting on them.

[Nostawen]

Well, I always thought that AIC was more about the atmosphere and general impression that the songs left on my mind that about particular soundcrafting. But that´s only me.

[BigBadZep!]

Alright. Personally I've never felt AIC were all that atmospheric, not like Ænima or Sigur Ros or anything. I've just always thought they made good, if sometimes predictable, rock music.

:up:

[Nostawen]

I didn´t mean at all they are atmospheric. I was trying to say that, for some reason, their songs always left an overall dark, somewhat sick impression on me, and that was the good stuff about it.

[BigBadZep!]

I didn´t mean at all they are atmospheric. I was trying to say that, for some reason, their songs always left an overall dark, somewhat sick impression on me, and that was the good stuff about it.

Oh, ok, gotcha. I agree.

[Tzarina]

C´mon!! They deserved one!!!. I think many of us here love them, and we never had a space to discuss about them. So...spread the voice!!

Must to drown these thoughts....purity over rot

I just wanted everyone to know that I was watching a show on the history of popular music in America.
Some record exec. and that Brett Michels(?) of Poison (?)... :sniper: said that Nirvana was the worst thing to ever happen in popular music, and that music was happy and entertaining pregrunge...that AIC was worse, they just destroyed music as we knew it

:what:

Oh, I know, because Poison and Mariah Carey stopped selling as many albums?... :puke:

[mjk870621345]

heey nice fucking thread :happy:

AIC kick ass, and that unplugged DVD... :drool:

amazing stuff, best unplugged ever.

[bleuMadonna]

AIC's one of my all-time favorites, as a few of you here know (you know who you are). It was the vocal harmonies that grabbed me from the get-go. I heard Would? and I was hooked. My favorite album is Dirt, followed closely by JOF. Some days, JOF is my favorite. And the Unplugged was just incredible in my book. It's my favorite Unplugged.

[greg]

I just wanted everyone to know that I was watching a show on the history of popular music in America.
Some record exec. and that Brett Michels(?) of Poison (?)... :sniper: said that

:what:

Oh, I know, because Poison and Mariah Carey stopped selling as many albums?... :puke:
yeah, I would be pissed too if I were bret michels. all that big hair bullshit pussy music went into the shitter (with his career) because decent music started being made.

[Nostawen]

Brett Michaels was the one that destroyed music as we know it. Music was happy and entertaining??. If that´s the only parameter from what music should be judged, that guy has a black hole in the place where his brain should be.

[Col]

Alice In Chains. what a band. Jar of Flies is my favourite AIC album followed closely by Dirt and Unplugged.

I remember the day Layne was pronounced dead. sad sick ending for a legend. but the music is always there to live on as his legacy.
R.I.P

[bleuMadonna]

Right on, Col. I cried that day. Their music has been such a big part of me. Don't know what I'd do without it. I'm glad they shared their gift with the rest of us.

[Nostawen]

The most ironic part of it is that it was his own twisted mind which, being put on the music, in some sense made it so interesting.

[B]

AIC Unplugged was amazing.

[Col]

I was tempted to get it today. but i opted for Nin - Broken and Pearl Jam - Live in Perth instead.

...there's always tomorrow! :wink:

[bleuMadonna]

Get it, Col. It's the best Unplugged ever.

[B]

its all subjective.

[bleuMadonna]

Next time, I'll put "IMO" at the end, mkay? :sarcasm: :rolleyes:

[Nostawen]

Get it, Col. It's the best Unplugged ever.

:nod: yesyesyesyes. Got Me Wrong sounds damn perfect there, so as Nutshell, and Angry Chair, and Sludge Factory, and, and....

[B]

Frogs.

[Nostawen]

Frogs...I forgot. And Heaven Beside You :wink:

[B]

most people dont really like Frogs. They say its too drawn out, too repetitive, but I hadnt heard the song before, and thought it was quite amazing live and on tripod.

[Col]

Get it, Col. It's the best Unplugged ever.
I shall!

[Joga]

AIC Unplugged :drool:

I love, love, love Nutshell on that album...and Got Me Wrong...

[Nostawen]

Got Me Wrong is probably one of the best unplugged songs ever. Jerry´s vocal parts are :drool:

[bleuMadonna]

I also love Brother on that one. That acappella harmony in the middle of the song sends chills down my spine...Fricken beautiful. Frogs is also killer!

[bdf]

What can I say? Alice was like a breath of fresh air to me when I first heard Dirt, and I haven't looked back since. Such a shame that Layne had to leave us too, but he's in a better place.

Awesome, awesome band.

[bleuMadonna]

Some more AIC reuniting talk:
(this is from a Jerry Cantrell board)


Steve Hochman of The Los Angeles Times is reporting
that the surviving members of the popular Seattle
grunge-metal group ALICE IN CHAINS, whose singer Layne
Staley died of a drug overdose in 2002, are exploring
ways they might be able to perform again on a regular
basis.

The seeds were planted this past February when
guitarist Jerry Cantrell, bassist Mike Inez and
drummer Sean Kinney reunited at a benefit for victims
of the Indonesian tsunami. At that show, which took
place in Seattle, four vocalists — TOOL's Maynard
James Keenan, PUDDLE OF MUDD's Wes Scantlin,
DAMAGEPLAN's Pat Lachman and HEART's Ann Wilson —
stepped in for Staley.

"The guys had so much fun that they thought maybe
there's something else we want to do," Bill Siddons,
who co-manages the band with original manager Susan
Silver, tells The Los Angeles Times. "We'd love to
find a way to let these guys perform together and have
the fun they had and honor and respect what they
created in the past, as well as Layne's
contributions."

What shape that might take is very uncertain at this
point, though Siddons insists there will be no reality
show to find a singer, à la "Rock Star".

"That's a perfect example of what happens when you
marry television and music badly," Siddons says. "It's
not what ALICE was ever about."

They may not even be looking for a lead singer, at
least not one full-time member, Siddons adds. While
they're open to the potential of something along the
lines of the current QUEEN tour (in which veteran
rocker Paul Rodgers is filling in for the late Freddie
Mercury), that's far from a given.

"We might do a date here or there if there are
opportunities to get a special guest to sing," Siddons
says. "That's been discussed. More likely at this
point we'll do benefits rather than paying gigs."

"Part of the enigma," Silver tells The Los Angeles
Times, "was they didn't play that much."

That, she said, was as much the case for the band as
for the fans, and the February show let the musicians
get a taste of what they'd missed.

"It was so terrific for them to play together," she
said. "But they're not ready to announce a new person,
make a new record and start the cycle over yet. They
want to just go have fun and give a tip of the hat to
Layne and the people who enjoyed the music."

[Nostawen]

Yeah, I read this some days ago. I think they´re doing well about taking things slowly and with the "have fun" kind of mentality. Then again, I just think they shouldn´t look for another singer. Jerry should take the vocal parts, he definitely can stand the challenge.

[bleuMadonna]

Yeah, I read this some days ago. I think they´re doing well about taking things slowly and with the "have fun" kind of mentality. Then again, I just think they shouldn´t look for another singer. Jerry should take the vocal parts, he definitely can stand the challenge.
Yeah, I agree. Nothing too permanent or anything, which is good. If they're really enjoying playing together, nothing should stop that. But I can't picture a permanent lead vocalist under the name of AIC.

[Nostawen]

Or maybe they should do what they did on the Tsunami Benefit, get a bunch of guest singers. That would be cool too.

[bleuMadonna]

Yeah, they could tour with different guests. That would be fun. Jerry can definitely sing a good part of the AIC catalog, so some guests doing the really high Layne parts might be kind of cool. Wouldn't mind seeing Maynard with them :drool:...

[Nostawen]

I definitely wouldn´t mind either!!. I think that Pat Lachman (from Damageplan) made a surprisingly good work there too. I really didn´t expected him to do it that well.

[bleuMadonna]

Me, either. He did a pretty decent job on DIAH...Hmmm, I'm going to have to bust out that boot tonight, I think :bleu:

[Nostawen]

Anyway, I can´t wait for a new Jerry solo album to come out. I read somewhere it could be ready for early 2006.

[bleuMadonna]

Anyway, I can´t wait for a new Jerry solo album to come out. I read somewhere it could be ready for early 2006.
ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because hopefully, that will mean a tour. I'm so jonesin' to see a Jerry show.

[Ryan]

The Alice In Chains Thread

Old December 25th, 2004, 07:52 AM


omfg christmas day!

[bleuMadonna]

:bleu:

There was Alice news, sort of, so it was a worthy bump :biggrin:

[MojoFearsSatan]

meh. just wanted to talk about em, right? Not that it's a problem. I like Alice In Chains. I like them a lot. My favourite songs are Nutshell, Rotten Apple, Frogs and Shame In You.

[PatrickBateman]

Right on, Col. I cried that day. ...........
So did Aaron Lewis.............and he hasn't stopped since

[phi]

It sticks to your mouth
Like peanut butter on the brain

[mjk870621345]

Brother is awesome :homer:

[phi]

Unplugged, especially. :dude:

[mjk870621345]

Unplugged, especially. :dude:

:nod:

[mud_]

i bought facelift for $7.50 on sunday

[MojoFearsSatan]

I got Facelift, Dirt and self-titled in one big box for £22.

[bleuMadonna]

So did Aaron Lewis.............and he hasn't stopped since
:lmao:...I know. Staind have so disappointed me. I loved their first album, but everything after that sucked. I gave all but the first one to my nephew.

[mjk870621345]

i liked Dysfunction and break the cycle

[bleuMadonna]

From the jerrycantrell.com message board :eek2:


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

SURGEON PREDICTS COMPLETE RECOVERY

JERRY CANTRELL ON THE MEND AFTER SURGERY

Guitar great Jerry Cantrell of Alice In Chains underwent surgery earlier this week after complaining of acute pain in his left shoulder. He was admitted to Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic in Los Angeles where Dr. Stephen J. Lombardo, a noted sports medicine practitioner, attended him.

The surgery included the repair of Cantrell’s glenoid labrum, a ring of fibrocartilage that is part of the shoulder joint as we as the removal of bone spurs. Cantrell’s condition is not uncommonly found in musicians and athletes such as baseball players. Dr. Lombardo who is team physician for the NBA Lakers and WNBA Sparks and is orthopaedic consultant to both the L.A. Dodgers and Angels as well as the NHL L.A. Kings, noted, “I would consider Jerry Cantrell an athlete, as well.” He added “Jerry is a great patient” and predicted a complete recovery. “The prognosis is excellent,” he stated, “Jerry should be able to resume his full range of activity in a few months.”

For his part, Cantrell stated, “It’s tough not being able to play for a while but I’m really looking forward to getting back out and performing without being in constant pain. Big thanks to Dr. Lombardo and the staff at Kerlan-Jobe for getting this sorted out.”

Cantrell’s next scheduled performance is set for March 10th when he and his Alice In Chains bandmates, Sean Kinney and Mike Inez, are scheduled to appear in an episode of VH1’s “Decades Rock Live!” a tribute to Heart that will take place at the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. A spring air date for the program is to be announced shortly.

Here's to a speedy recovery!

[Godless]

whatever happened to Col?

[Nostawen]

Oh, Jerry, I wanna be your nurse!! :inlove: Col is working and studying pretty hard, sometimes I get to talk to him on MSN.

[Godless]

:up:

[bleuMadonna]

Oh, Jerry, I wanna be your nurse!!
:teehee: I was thinking the same thing!

Glad to hear Col is doing well!

[bdf]

:sarcasm: @ "JC's nurse"

[deloresdelrio]

So did Aaron Lewis.............and he hasn't stopped since
:ha:

i love you, patty

[B]

:ha:

facelift was alright, sap was meh.

[deloresdelrio]

facelift is the best alice album
i don't care what the rest of you pretentious fuckwads (zep<3) say

[bleuMadonna]

facelift is the best alice album
i don't care what the rest of you pretentious fuckwads (zep<3) say
:lol:

I still like Dirt better :bleu:

[deloresdelrio]

YOU HAVE NO TASTE, KERRI!

:crying2:

[bleuMadonna]

YOU HAVE NO TASTE, KERRI!

:crying2:
:lol: :hug2:

I love Facelift, but I can't help it, some of my favorite songs are on Dirt

[deloresdelrio]

sickman is one of my favorite songs and it's on dirt

but i dunno, i think facelift is better, and even tripod, really
i don't understand why dirt be gettin' all that hype and they just be
ignorin' the other stuff

[bleuMadonna]

sickman is one of my favorite songs and it's on dirt

but i dunno, i think facelift is better, and even tripod, really
i don't understand why dirt be gettin' all that hype and they just be
ignorin' the other stuff
Dirt is the one the so-called critics like the best, so I guess that's why there is such hype about it. I <3 Sickman...:drool:...seriously, I love them all, as you know, but Dirt is the one that gets played the most, followed closely by JOF, which on some days, is my favorite.

[B]

sickman is one of my favorite songs and it's on dirt

but i dunno, i think facelift is better, and even tripod, really
i don't understand why dirt be gettin' all that hype and they just be
ignorin' the other stuff
Jar of Flies is the best album, cunt :muah:

[deloresdelrio]

nigger, please

kerri, i love them all too, i listen to jar of flies least of all, mainly
because listening to it makes me think about people i don't want to
think about.. and i really do love dirt, i think i just have a sentimental attachment
to facelift. it's one of the few albums i can put on at anytime and be satisfied.

[B]

you were a child of the 80's?

[BigBadZep!]

facelift is the best alice album
i don't care what the rest of you pretentious fuckwads (zep<3) say

If this is some attempt to try and suck me into an argument, you're going to have to do better than that honey.

[deloresdelrio]

If this is some attempt to try and suck me into an argument, you're going to have to do better than that honey.
why would i want to argue with you?
i just wanted you to know that i know
that you're a pretentious fuckwad and i heart you for it.
:heart:

euphony, i'm 28. so yeah. kinda.

[PatrickBateman]

:ha:

i love you, patty
mutual



and btw, Facelift + It aint like that > *

Tripod is probably my least favorite

[B]

yah, Tripod is too dead and grungy.

its a tossup for me betwixt Unplugged and JOF for best aic album.

[deloresdelrio]

mutual



and btw, Facelift + It aint like that > *

Tripod is probably my least favorite
tripod gets better with age, though
if you haven't listened to it in awhile, you should dig it out

[bleuMadonna]

kerri, i love them all too, i listen to jar of flies least of all, mainly because listening to it makes me think about people i don't want to
think about.. and i really do love dirt, i think i just have a sentimental attachment
to facelift. it's one of the few albums i can put on at anytime and be satisfied.
Understandable on all counts. There is some music I love that I don't listen to much for the same reasons.

[deloresdelrio]

yah, Tripod is too dead and grungy.

its a tossup for me betwixt Unplugged and JOF for best aic album.
your FACE is dead and grungy

:sarcasm2:

[bleuMadonna]

tripod gets better with age
Word.
Frogs :drool:

[BigBadZep!]

why would i want to argue with you?
i just wanted you to know that i know
that you're a pretentious fuckwad and i heart you for it.
:heart:


And you're an ignorant music consumer with godawful taste.

So is everyone who thinks Tripod is their worst album.

:hi2:

[PatrickBateman]

tripod gets better with age, though
if you haven't listened to it in awhile, you should dig it out
not saying I dont like it....but when I reach for a AIC disc, it usually gets passed over


I will listen to it tomorrow @ work

[deloresdelrio]

And you're an ignorant music consumer with godawful taste.

So is everyone who thinks Tripod is their worst album.

:hi2:
i'm an ignorant music?

WELL THAT IS REALLY RUDE!

patty, do it! you will be like, wow, this is better than i remembered!

damn you zep, damn you and your edit!

[PatrickBateman]

patty, do me! you will be like, wow, this is better than i remembered!



fo sho

[BigBadZep!]

i'm an ignorant music?

That too.

[deloresdelrio]

fo sho
i think it's hot that you have memories of things that never happened.

:drool:

[PatrickBateman]

i think it's hot that you have memories of things that never happened.

:drool:
sometimes you are part of something without knowing it

[deloresdelrio]

that's true

there was that one time, with that thing

[PatrickBateman]

that's true

there was that one time, with that thing
I love it when you talk dirty

[deloresdelrio]

i love it when you aren't afraid to try new things

[PatrickBateman]

i love it when you aren't afraid to try new things
I love it when you keep me up past 11:30

[deloresdelrio]

i love it when i keep you up past anything

[PatrickBateman]

i love it when i keep you up
are you flirting with me?

[deloresdelrio]

well, i think it would be a little whorish to flirt with a married man... don't you?

[PatrickBateman]

well, i think it would be a little whorish to flirt with a married man... don't you?
its not considered cheating in some countries...in fact it is encouraged

[deloresdelrio]

we could take a 'vacation'

[PatrickBateman]

we could take a 'vacation'
I could always 'work late'

[deloresdelrio]

i have no one to answer or lie to!

+2000 for me

[bdf]

:lol:

I still like Dirt better :bleu:

Or Tripod.

[bleuMadonna]

Or Tripod.
:nod: After Dirt and JOF, it's hard for me to put them in any order because some days, I'm all about Tripod and Unplugged or the Music Bank stuff...

[deloresdelrio]

i don't like the demos on the music bank.

and it's weird, cuz i'm all about the hairbands, and that's what
that shit sounds like.

[bleuMadonna]

I like the different mixes of some of the more familiar songs, though.

[bdf]

I like all of the different versions of Rooster... the demo versions of Junkhead, Bleed The Freak and Sea Of Sorrow I don't really listen to. I do like the cleaned up versions of What The Hell Have I and A Little Bitter though--they definitely sound better than the original versions.

[B]

I like the live version of Roostah from best of da box (twas the exact same show that was booted on sameoldtrip, btw) :nod:

[bdf]

Yeah, that version definitely kicks ass. \m/

[Nostawen]

YAY!! Penny´s back!!





And Alice still rules! (I´m looking forward for the next Jerry solo album)

[deloresdelrio]

don't hold your breath, i'm pretty sure it's never coming out

[bleuMadonna]

I know, I'm starting to wonder if his new stuff will ever see the light of day :(

[B]

I sold degradation trip. couldnt get into it :shrug:

[bdf]

don't hold your breath, i'm pretty sure it's never coming out

I can pretty much guarantee it's not.

HI NATI! :heart:

[bdf]

I sold degradation trip. couldnt get into it :shrug:

I still listen to some of the songs on that one, but overall... meh.

Alice > Jerry solo

[bleuMadonna]

I'm still nuts for D-Trip. I listen to it all the time.

[bdf]

Apples/oranges I guess... :shrug:

[deloresdelrio]

me too, kerri

i think it's just as good as anything alice put out, but what do i know

[mjk870621345]

I still listen to some of the songs on that one, but overall... meh.

Alice > Jerry solo

:nod:

i never got into it either :shrug:

[deloresdelrio]

considering that jerry wrote 90% of alice's songs and also sang a great deal i think it's pretty stupid when people can't get into his solo stuff but like alice. pretty much any of the degradation trip songs (with the exception of a few - like give it a name) could have been alice in chains songs. and that's a fact, to prove it all you need to do is listen.

[bleuMadonna]

me too, kerri

i think it's just as good as anything alice put out, but what do i know
Yeah, it's hard for me to say which is better. Some days it's Jerry solo, some days it's Alice. I love it aaaaaaaaaall :bleu:

[bdf]

:nod:

i never got into it either :shrug:

The REASON I've lost interest in it is because, well... Jerry has. For all intents and purposes, he's preety much given up on the solo thing to give the fans what HE thinks they want. Which of course is the Alice stuff. It just sucks cause his attitude is still stuck in the 90s and he just doesn't have the confidence in his solo material that he should have.

Meh.

/rant over

[bleuMadonna]

I guess I just wouldn't let that interfere with my enjoyment of his music.:shrug:

[Nostawen]

The REASON I've lost interest in it is because, well... Jerry has. For all intents and purposes, he's preety much given up on the solo thing to give the fans what HE thinks they want. Which of course is the Alice stuff. It just sucks cause his attitude is still stuck in the 90s and he just doesn't have the confidence in his solo material that he should have.

Meh.

/rant over

I think I agree with the confidence part. I don´t know why, but I have the same feeling, it´s like he doesn´t feel secure enough outside Alice In Chains (and that´s stupid, because his solo stuff is great, and because, like we all know, most of Alice´s music were his). Besides, the record companies he´s been on never seemed interested enough in supporting him.

Meh

/rant over


HI BACK AT YOU, PENNY!! :heart:

[bdf]

Besides, the record companies he´s been on never seemed interested enough in supporting him.

AMEN!!! I suspect the whole "bringing back of Alice" thing has been prompted by greedy record slobs looking to milk the Alice tit for all it's worth, and Jerry being the unorganized person he is (HIS words, people... not mine) he's leading them right to it.

:bleu: , I know you don't let that kind of stuff affect you as a fan and I know that I shouldn't either (and I typically don't) but in this one instance I'm trying to be as loud about it as I possibly can because JC fans have ALWAYS had more faith in his solo work than he ever has. Period. And you've known me for long enough that if I feel I need to speak up... well, you know the rest. :innocent:

[bleuMadonna]

AMEN!!! I suspect the whole "bringing back of Alice" thing has been prompted by greedy record slobs looking to milk the Alice tit for all it's worth, and Jerry being the unorganized person he is (HIS words, people... not mine) he's leading them right to it.
I have to agree here as well. I'm sure it's the money-grubbing fucktards who want to live in the past. I mean, really, do people want an artist never to grow or try another direction? I know I don't. And they wonder why the record business is so fucked up.

:bleu: , I know you don't let that kind of stuff affect you as a fan and I know that I shouldn't either (and I typically don't) but in this one instance I'm trying to be as loud about it as I possibly can because JC fans have ALWAYS had more faith in his solo work than he ever has. Period. And you've known me for long enough that if I feel I need to speak up... well, you know the rest. :innocent:
Same here, my dear :bleu: I hear you. I can't understand the lack of confidence in his solo stuff, either. I just really wish he'd get back to it because D-Trip was so awesome, imho.

[bdf]

Yeah, the greedy record company fuqstix can take a long walk off a short bridge IMO... bastages... :plain:

And I have not one clue what JC's confidence problem is about... maybe it's because he feels more comfortable out of the "spotlight" as a frontman and is happier just playing his guitar. Meh, dunno. :shrug:

[Nostawen]

I really don´t want to sound like a goddamn shrink...but maybe after he witnessed what the pressures of being a frontman did with Layne (and with a lot of his peers), he really wants to avoid being in the spotlight. Anyway, I´m not assuming that Layne´s drug addiction was all about that (because I´m sure it´s not true), but being exposed all the time as Alice´s frontman really shouldn´t have helped.

[bdf]

It's not like Jerry hasn't had HIS troubles with drugs either though... but I do see your point there.

[Nostawen]

It's not like Jerry hasn't had HIS troubles with drugs either though... but I do see your point there.
Yeah, I know, my point is that he didn´t went as far as Layne, God bless him.

[bdf]

True enough on that, but he got pretty close from what I understand...

[Nostawen]

I´m sure he did...Degradation Trip oozes deep drug addiction (not only on the lyrics, but also on the music)

[bdf]

Plus, for Deg Trip his self-harmonies REALLY evoked Layne.

[bleuMadonna]

I so love his harmonies.

[bdf]

Yeah... the discordant harmony thing is something I've ALWAYS liked.

[bleuMadonna]

Yeah... the discordant harmony thing is something I've ALWAYS liked.
Indeed. There is something haunting/beautiful about it at the same time. So many moods created with it.

[Nostawen]

Indeed. There is something haunting/beautiful about it at the same time. So many moods created with it.
Brother....:drool:

[bleuMadonna]

Brother....:drool:
:nod:

[bdf]

Indeed. There is something haunting/beautiful about it at the same time. So many moods created with it.

I remember hearing him talk about that in the Deg Trip interview, that one of his main musical influences for writing that way was his choir days back in high school. I thought that was so awesome that he was influenced by stuff from WAY back in the days, you know?

[bleuMadonna]

I remember hearing him talk about that in the Deg Trip interview, that one of his main musical influences for writing that way was his choir days back in high school. I thought that was so awesome that he was influenced by stuff from WAY back in the days, you know?
Indeed. I remember that, too. I think he ended up giving his choir teacher one of the gold record-thingys AIC got as a thank-you. I can't remember for which CD, but he was very grateful to his high school teacher.

[bdf]

Yeah, he said that too... it's been a while since I listened to the DT interview...

[bleuMadonna]

Yeah, he said that too... it's been a while since I listened to the DT interview...
Me, too. I should dig that one out. I just listened to the CWTF one...:up:

[bdf]

Yeah, I need to listen to that one too. :MAGO:

[Nostawen]

I really don´t know how reliable this info is but well, here it is anyway. Judge by yourselves...

It's Official: ALICE IN CHAINS Is Back! - Feb. 21, 2006

ALICE IN CHAINS guitarist Jerry Cantrell's official web site administrator, who goes by the name of "ceojc", has confirmed that the band will be reuniting for an appearance at the Nova Rock festival in Austria in mid-June (web site), with "a lot more" concert dates yet to be announced.

"I hate to keep on saying this, but as most of you have heard, ALICE will be performing at Nova Rock in Austria," "ceojc" writes on Cantrell's official message board. "This is true. ALICE is back.

"Europe is a long way to go for just one show, so I feel that we are going to have a lot more to do.

"Because this is Europe and a big festival, don't count on any special ALICE tickets but you never know what the future brings.

"Let me explain why things went down the way they went down. It was not the way we wanted it to happen. The festival promoter secured a bunch of really big bands like METALLICA, GUNS N' ROSES and ALICE. The promoter decided to have a big press conference on Monday [Feb. 20]. We had not finished securing the 'business side' of the show by the time Monday rolled around. Because Monday was President's Day, our office was closed and we could not make a decission regarding releasing the info to you guys. Our European agent, because our office was closed, made an executive decision to release the show info. We fully support his choice but could not say anything untill we spoke to him to get the full stroy and due to the time difference and travel we could not make the announcement untill just now.

"Guys, please remember that nothing is official unless it comes from our office. We like to surprise you but sometimes that is not always possible.

"Jerry, Mike [Inez, bass], Sean [Kinney, drums] and the managment team are doing our best to keep you guys informed. You mean a lot to the guys and they want you to know that."

ALICE IN CHAINS frontman Layne Staley died on April 5, 2002 from a mixture of heroin and cocaine. Staley was found dead two weeks later, surrounded by intravenous drug paraphernalia in his Seattle apartment. The death certificate reads Staley's death resulted from "an acute intoxication due to the combined effects of opiate (heroin) and cocaine." The death was classified as "accidental."

As previously reported, COMES WITH THE FALL vocalist/guitarist and member of Jerry Cantrell's touring band William DuVall has been tapped to sing lead vocals with ALICE IN CHAINS at the taping of an episode of VH1 Classic's "Decades Rock Live!", a tribute to HEART that will take place March 10 at the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. It is not presently clear if DuVall will be joining the group on any of the other dates that are currently being scheduled.

[bdf]

No comment.

[Nostawen]

Do you think we should beat some sense into him? :evil:

[bleuMadonna]

Hahaha, yeah...

[bdf]

Do you think we should beat some sense into him? :evil:
:that:

[james]

http://www.aliceinchains.net/

[Nostawen]

Seems that Phil Anselmo is going to sing with Alice on their VH1 performance. He´s going to do Them Bones and Would? with them. I was going to put the news story, but the stupi dsite won´t let me copy it.

[bleuMadonna]

Yeah, he did sing with them, but I thought William DuVall did a way better job on Angry Chair., Man in the Box and Rooster :bleu: It was pretty amazing to see the Alice boys together, I have to admit, even though I've had reservations about their getting back together this way. The crowd was wicked into it. I've never seen so many Alice shirts in one place. I would say the crowd was way more into Alice than into Heart, though there were a crapload of Heart people as well. Btw, Ann Wilson is still the shit. That woman has one fucking amazing voice.

A couple of my friends talked to Sean Kinney at some after-party and he told them Alice was doing the shows this year in a tribute to Layne and for the fans. He said they plan to put out new music, but that it will be under a different name and with a singer and all, but they don't have the singer yet.

They had to redo Would? and Man in the Box because of a technical glitch during MITB and some off-key singing during Would? I didn't think Phil did that great, to be honest. Plus, they will have to cut all kinds of stuff because Phil was swearing up a storm, haha. The show had a weird pacing because of the filming, I guess. Alice did their stuff right away, and then Heart and Alice and William DuVall and Duff McKagan (who played with Alice) came out for Rooster. That performance gave me chills. William was really on for it. Jerry Cantrell and Dave Navarro also played guitar on Heart's Barracuda, which was way cool. Jerry and Nancy Wilson at one point were doing the dueling guitar jam and they were both on their knees playing their asses off. It was fucking cool.

I'm so glad I got to go to this. Can't wait for the DVD, hehe.

[Nostawen]

Ohhhhh, you lucky gal!!! I´ve read some accounts on the show, and they all agree with you about William DuVall nailing his part (and Phil swearing a lot, lol). Duff playing with them really surprised me (though I saw him on the rehearsal pics, I thought it was just hanging out with them).

[bleuMadonna]

Yeah, it was cool seeing Duff up there. And Dave Navarro did a few songs with Heart, so that was cool. He is sexy as hell, too, haha. And William is just awesome. He was wearing his Comes With The Fall shirt, too. I wish the writing was bigger on that shirt. That would be good advertising for his band :bleu:

[james]

So William DuVall is singing vocals on the tour this summer.

Who the fuck is William DuVall?

This reunion is a mistake.

[KenKill75]

Much like your conception

[bleuMadonna]

So William DuVall is singing vocals on the tour this summer.

Who the fuck is William DuVall?

This reunion is a mistake.
William DuVall is a kick-ass singer from the band Comes With The Fall, a three-piece. His band was Jerry Cantrell's backing band during the Degradation Trip tour a few years ago. His band also did double duty by opening for Cantrell.

www.comeswiththefall.com

www.myspace.com/comeswiththefall

They have a new single on the myspace site. They were supposed to come out with a new album soon, and it's done, but they want to release it when they can give their full attention to touring and promoting for it properly. They can't do that while William's doing the AIC thing, so they are releasing an EP with the new single and three songs.

Jerry played a mix of his stuff and AIC stuff on that tour and having seen them three times back then, William did a great job just for the fact that he didn't try to sound like Layne. He made the songs his, but not so much that the diehard Layne fans would flip out because it wasn't Layne. I think they have every right to continue playing music together, but I'm not keen on them calling it AIC because Layne was a huge part of AIC and that just doesn't seem right. Sean Kinney said in an interview a couple of months ago that after they tour on this AIC reunion thing, they will have new music under a different name. I'm kind of hoping it will be whatever Jerry had ready for his next solo record.

[KenKill75]

Lets hear it for Willy :clap:

[Tzarina]

Oh holy crap... I actually came to this thread to ask who was going to sing... sweet! he's a good singer... and I think too big of a name would have been too recognizable vocally and a mistake... :clap:

PS... I still love Sean Kinney, he was a funny man!

[bleuMadonna]

Oh holy crap... I actually came to this thread to ask who was going to sing... sweet! he's a good singer... and I think too big of a name would have been too recognizable vocally and a mistake... :clap:

PS... I still love Sean Kinney, he was a funny man!
Hehe, yup, he is. I agree on the singer. There would be so many expectations with a bigger name. William is really good, and sadly, not enough people know about him. The people who saw Jerry in 2001-02 know him, though, and the CWTF fans who were around before the Jerry Cantrell tour.

[james]

I was going to see JC a few years back...that gig got cancelled though.

[Tzarina]

that must have been a bad day for you...

So are you going to see AIC?

[Nostawen]

Well, you know my thoughts about the reunion. Anyway, I agree with both Lisha and Bleu about the fact that a low profile singer is the better choice. Hope it works!

[bleuMadonna]

Me, too. I just hope they get this reunion thing out of their system and concentrate on the new music under a new name.

[Nostawen]

Duff McKagan has confirmed he will be playing second guitar in some dates

[KenKill75]

I hope you're not stating that as a selling point

[dionysusolympus]

Duff McKagan has confirmed he will be playing second guitar in some dates

five dolla'.

[bleuMadonna]

So, they announce five fricken dates before the European tour, all in small venues, like 1,000 or fewer. WTF? And you have to be on some mailing list to get a password, blah, blah, blah to buy them on ticketbastard. Two shows are already sold out. Fuck ticketsheister.

[KenKill75]

Relax or i'll have to tell you to mod yourself. :what:

[MojoFearsSatan]

Duff McKagan has confirmed he will be playing second guitar in some dates

My interest just waned.

[bleuMadonna]

Relax or i'll have to tell you to mod yourself. :what:
No. We can say fuck still, can't we? Besides, I love Jerry and AIC and I can't help myself.

[KenKill75]

O-fuckin-kay

[bleuMadonna]

:lol:

[Nostawen]

I hope you're not stating that as a selling point
It´s just news! Relax, goddamn it!

[james]

So Billy Corgan sang with Alice in Chains last night...

[bleuMadonna]

Yup. There will be a lot of guests popping up on this mini-tour, plus at the European shows.

[james]

Yeah, I'm gonna go see them in London. It'll be weird, but cool.

[bleuMadonna]

Yes, from what I've read about the first couple of shows they are sounding really good.

[Nostawen]

So Billy Corgan sang with Alice in Chains last night...
So did Mark Lanegan!! That would have been goddamn awesome (Lanegan, not Corgan)

[bleuMadonna]

Indeed! I would have loved to have been there for that!

[bleuMadonna]

Well, I got to go to the Boston show after all! And it was bad-ass! It was all hard stuff (about 70 minutes) and the boys looked genuinely happy to be rocking their asses off. William DuVall did great and I actually said hello to him after the show because he came out of the venue and hung out for a few minutes. Sean said at the end of the show that he had pneumonia and that we helped him get through it :smile: He is so hot, hehe.

The highlight was Love, Hate, Love. William nailed it and it gave me chills. The place was jam-packed and I couldn't move much or headbang much on the floor. It also was like one big massive sing-along because everybody in there knew all the words. I don't remember the exact order of the set list, but here are some of the other songs they did:

Sludge Factory (the opener...awesome choice)
Dam that River
We Die Young
Again
Rain When I Die
Junkhead (!)
Down in a Hole
Rooster
It Ain't Like That (I went nuts on this one, well, as nuts as I could, hehe)
Angry Chair
Dirt (this was killer)
Would?
Them Bones
*edit* How could I forget Man in the Box?? It was a scream-along, lol. Awesome!

It was cool to hear some stuff from the self-titled as they didn't tour much for that when it came out. They sounded as if they hadn't missed a beat.

They've announced some more shows for August back in the states. I'm hopefully going to the Bethlehem, PA, one on Aug. 5, the day after Ozzfest. Yeah!!!

[Nostawen]

GRRRRR, YOU´RE SOOOOO DAMN LUCKY!!!!!. Great to hear you enjoyed it, girl. Was there any guest singer or not?

[Agent]

only shit i've seen is anselmo singing with them...it was alright.

[bleuMadonna]

Yeah, they doctored up Pat's performance for the Heart tribute show. I was there, and his performance made me cringe. It was hard to take.

Nostawen, just William DuVall sang. We were hoping Maynard might show, as Tool were in Boston the night before, but he did not show. Guess they had to get ready for Europe. Plus, he was sick at our Philly show a few days before the Boston show, so that might have had something to do with it. It was still a kick-ass show, though :bleu:

[Nostawen]

Stupid Maynard!...James Hetfield sang Would? with them on the Rock Am Ring Festival today. It´s funny to see how he can´t hit the high notes (though the band sounds damn solid). Here´s the link to download the song (with half of Man In The Box attached to it too)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/d1j8bq

[bleuMadonna]

Cool, thanks!!!

[bleuMadonna]

So, I saw AIC on Saturday night. Fucking kick-ass. William is way more comfortable with the material on stage now. It was awesome. They did about 16 or 17 songs, mostly heavy shit. I was 10 rows back from the stage. There is a fall tour planned and I'm so going to go. They played (in no particular order because I'm lame at remembering set lists):

Sludge Factory
We Die Young
Rain When I Die
Dam That River
Love Hate Love
Them Bones
It Ain't Like That
Down in a Hole
Nutshell
Rooster
No Excuses
Again (this was bad-ass)
Junkhead (ridiculously good)
Angry Chair
Man in the Box
Would?

I hope they pull out Rotten Apple or Sea of Sorrow on the next leg of the tour.

I wrote a long-ass review on my myspace for anyone who wants to read....
www.myspace.com/sweetcompanion

[Agent]

so who's singing for AIC on this upcoming tour...they are coming to Hidalgo aka border town...about 15mins from me.....so i wanted to know and what not...see if it's worth it

[bleuMadonna]

Agent, it's William DuVall from the band Comes With the Fall. He and his band also toured with Jerry Cantrell on the Degradation Trip world tours. He's very capable and he doesn't try to imitate Layne Staley. For the most part, people are supportive, but there are a lot Layne fans who'd rather the band shrivel up and die, but whatever. I was quite happy with the performance I saw Saturday. I plan on going to six shows, if I can swing the time off from work.

You can check them out at
www.comeswiththefall.com

[Agent]

so he sings all the songs then?

[bleuMadonna]

Yes, he sings lead vox on most of the songs they've been playing. Jerry does a lot of backup, though, and almost sounds like lead vox on a song like No Excuses. Lots of blending.

[Agent]

how much were the tickets? like an average price and what not

[bleuMadonna]

They are ranging anywhere from 40 to 60, including the applicable ticketbastard fees. I scored three shows on the presale today, woot! I have three more to try for on the public sale. I'm stoked!

[Agent]

They are ranging anywhere from 40 to 60, including the applicable ticketbastard fees. I scored three shows on the presale today, woot! I have three more to try for on the public sale. I'm stoked!
i see....too rich for my blood. original aic would be no question.....but meh...we shall see what happens...thanks.

[bleuMadonna]

Yer welcome. The band is sounding good, though.

[DeadOhioSky]

bleu which ones are you going to?

[bleuMadonna]

DeadOhioSky, so far, I'm going to Baltimore, Philly and Rhode Island. I'm crossing my fingers for NYC tix this Saturday. I'd like to go to both, but I'm not sure I can get both nights off. I definitely want to try for the first NYC show. I'm also hoping to go to D.C. Are you going to the NYC ones?

[DeadOhioSky]

i hope so

[bleuMadonna]

Tix on sale Saturday *bites nails*.

[bleuMadonna]

DeadOhioSky, did you end up getting NYC tix? I got them for both shows :yay:

Oh, and I bought the Sony Essential AIC only because it included a DVD of the Nona Tapes :up: Otherwise, there wasn't anything new, but I've been waiting for that to come out on DVD.

[james]

They better play England again, and not just London.

[bleuMadonna]

They do like going overseas, so hopefully they will make another go-round out your way.

[bdf]

i see....too rich for my blood. original aic would be no question.....

:agree:

[alarment13]

i'm going to catch them in lubbock, tx. just as long as they play nutshell, i will be pleased

[bdf]

I think they have been, from what I remember reading on other boards.

[B]

ALICE IN CHAINS has commenced the songwriting process for a new studio album. In an online posting by The Baldy — whose job is "to travel the world with ALICE IN CHAINS and send photos, videos and blog entries back to [the webmasters] at AliceInChains.com" — he writes, "I've been [in Los Angeles] for five days, sat through three rehearsals and one demo recording session, listened to several other demos, and I can happily report that the new stuff is kicking my ass right out of my pants. Remember that these songs are still only in the early stages of being written too. Just in the time I've been here, the guys have taken a riff and worked on it and expanded it and added layers to it, and now it's practically a full-fledged song."

As previously reported, one of ALICE IN CHAINS' best-known tracks, "Rooster", will be featured on the tonight's (Thursday, April 26) episode of "Supernatural". The show airs nationally on the CW. Check your local listings to find out exactly when you should tune in and watch it.

ALICE IN CHAINS has been added to the list of artists who will take the stage for tribute performances at the second annual "VH1 Rock Honors". This year's celebration will honor the music and influence of OZZY OSBOURNE, GENESIS, HEART and ZZ TOP.

These honorees will perform live, along with additional tribute bands QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE, NICKELBACK, GRETCHEN WILSON and KEANE, on Saturday, May 12 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

Hosted by Bam Margera ("Jackass", "Viva La Bam"), "VH1 Rock Honors" will air on VH1 Thursday, May 24 at 9 p.m Eastern. Presenters will include Billy Bob Thornton, Robin Williams, Criss Angel, Taylor Hawkins and more.

ALICE IN CHAINS filmed its concert on October 31, 2006 in Providence, Rhode Island for a possible DVD release. The Halloween performance was two hours and forty minutes long, with the group playing additional songs for the filming. There's no indication yet of when the DVD could surface or what other features it might contain.

The group's most recent North American tour featured the reunited band playing a two-hour show that included an acoustic middle section as well as an eight-minute video tribute to late ALICE IN CHAINS frontman Layne Staley.

Staley died in 2002 after a long struggle with drug addiction that effectively put ALICE IN CHAINS on ice in 1996.

If they are going to release new shit they had better change the band name.

[jazz]

i was about to post that very same thing...it's a disgrace to use the aic name to help sell records.

out of respect for layne and for the classic albums they wrote togther, they should just put the fucking name to rest.

i guess i was mistaken. i always took aic to be a band that wouldn't do something that lame.

[B]

Yeah, they doctored up Pat's performance for the Heart tribute show. I was there, and his performance made me cringe. It was hard to take.

Ha I remember watching the live telecast and Anselmo sounding like complete crap, but then i just watched it on youtube and they doctored it so much that he actually sounded pretty cool.

the magic of television (and pitch correction)

rolo

[bleuMadonna]

^^^ For real. It was soooo bad. It seriously killed the mood. We were all looking at each other, going :what:

[bdf]

If they are going to release new shit they had better change the band name.

+489573784657346589347589

[bleuMadonna]

From the AIC official site:
It's official - Alice will be touring North America starting late this summer. The guys (including William) will be joining their friends in Velvet Revolver on tour and both bands are really excited to be hitting the road together.

More details on this tour, including a list of show dates, will be posted on the website soon...
VR...sigh...but I will go because I must see Jerry.

[B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJFG-W_fdqM

Great and only original performance of Rotten Apple (from 93 I think)...I love the different guitar flourishes and vocal intensity variations that weren't on the record version. Layne was awesome, even when completely fucked up.

[bleuMadonna]

For real. I love that.

[bdf]

i was about to post that very same thing...it's a disgrace to use the aic name to help sell records.

out of respect for layne and for the classic albums they wrote togther, they should just put the fucking name to rest.

i guess i was mistaken. i always took aic to be a band that wouldn't do something that lame.

Sean Kinney is about the ONLY surviving member who's said publically that the name should be changed but that talk has definitely stopped. I guess they feel that the 10-minute tribute video is enough homage to Layne. :gay2:

It's idiotic for me to hope that William would go back to devoting his time to his own band at this point. I will say this though--if, after this album is released, William does not get his proper cut from the rest of the band there's going to be a LOT of pissed off Comes With The Fall fans.

[jazz]

sean was always my fave, but he should have lobbied more if he truly felt that way.

[bleuMadonna]

It's idiotic for me to hope that William would go back to devoting his time to his own band at this point. I will say this though--if, after this album is released, William does not get his proper cut from the rest of the band there's going to be a LOT of pissed off Comes With The Fall fans.
For fucking real. I have thoroughly enjoyed William with AIC, but the CWTF fans have been waiting patiently for a tour from CWTF. It's been since '02 for most of us, except those Cali people who got to catch that mini-tour of four or five shows in March. Now that we have the new album, they need to kick that shit up LIVE!